NEFA DISCussion

Good stuff Jason and Titan....sort of like eavesdropping a chat between Picasso and Rembrandt deciding on their next masterpieces.

My memories of PCC construction...get help from someone who has DG brains (Steve Dodge and Titan) , work with what mother nature offers, roll up ones sleeves and get ...

Titan...good stuff, thanks for the post. When I bring my grandkids to play Tully we use the alt tee, so I have both bases covered...2 kids AND 1 mentally impaired.

You park at Tully, you still get the killer view no matter where the 1st hole goes , oh well.

I remember when we built the course at ...

Titan ... what about a short course for the kids... perfect spot might be at Athol High School behind the baseball field and behind Mann Lumber ( borders Lake Ellis)...or Mahar. Mahar school system has staff interested in disc golf (one worked with us at PCC). Get a school system to buy into DG with ...

Titan...All I can tell you is at PCC we built a DG course to help save a BG course. Tim and I well understood that BG interest and participation was in desperate decline due to many factors. Obviously both sports have there own pros and cons and levels of comparisons, but the most obvious to me is ...

From my BG dictionary (substantiated by Wikipedia)...."Par - The number of strokes a first - class player should normally require for a particular hole or course".

"First - class"...hmm, you guys probably have that one figured out.

"Normally"...hmm, statistics ( ie... accumulated scorecard input ...

Titan...The plan this summer is to hit Tully hopefully once a week, either Wed or Thurs PM around 1:15. Would be fun to connect with you if time allows , by yourself or bring your child, if you don't mind getting slowed down by a couple of noodle arms. Fond memories for me of working with you at the ...

Had an 'AHA' moment playing at Tully the other day...my first time out in 3 years, with a friend playing for the first time. It quickly became obvious that DG is a sport you can play and have a lot of fun with..while at the very same time sukking at it (relative to serious DGers). What an oddity ...

Titan...the Wendell lake I was thinking of I believe was Cranberry Pond more towards N Amherst on Rt 63, thanks to a google flyover a minute ago...so if you should get going at the Ruggles Pond site, don't worry about nudists. Would be curious if any old farts out in DG land remember this besides me.

Titan... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember going down Rt 63 to Amherst as a kid and hearing about a 'Ruggles Pond' as an active nudist swimming hole somewhere near the road to Leverett. Its been 40 years so I'm guessing I'm wrong. But it would bring up an interesting notion...nude disc golf ...

Think Deliverance + Herb/Granola + Appalachia + Ivy League?..an odd but beautiful mix. In some ways The Land That Time Forgot, in some ways a blessing it did.

Dave....tried to send you a pm, guess it didn't get through...for what its worth, your favorite ball golf course (Tatnuck) recently hired a new pro...he's the former club pro at PCC Tim Bishop, the guy I built a DG course with and tried to start a ball and chain site. Not sure if MH and Tatnuck have ...

Titan...building a course is fun , isn't it, with these kind of challenges. For what its worth, with optional routes on a hole to offer excitement and scoring potential, for me one route would offer the par 4 route with high degree of difficulty and and the other the safer par 5 route. In BG the ...

Jim...Good call old man, but technically he was named Joey Bishop. I know because I am equally an old man.

Titan....When you discard the old PCC flags, perhaps you should give them a proper burial with a 21 gun salute, given the death of PCC. I mean guns and ammo should be available. Or maybe just put all the flags in a box labeled with the Harvard Forest logo and blow them all to smithereens with a ...

George...I wonder if that light bulb going on bears any similarity to the light bulb that appeared in my eyes when I heard that there were behind the scenes skullduggery happening that killed PCC and my career and dreams. Its disheartening if and when we get caught in the evils of others, but I ...

General observation that I think is close to true...in any organization, whether volunteer or otherwise, 10% do 90% of the work...90% do 10% of the work...and most in the piss and moan section are from the 90%. The trick maybe is to have an organizational mechanism in place to put up or shut up ...

Nick...as in 'the old Fitzwilliam Inn' ? I have lived one town over in Richmond for the last 35 years and have followed the ups and downs of that spot with interest. Good luck. My limited experience building a course at PCC provided the following wisdom : all forms of brush equipped with thorns were ...

Dave...The starting point for me involves shot shaping in both sports, since designing a hole would reflect a players tendencies and physical capabilities. I don't know enough about DG shot shaping, but in BG for me it is the beauty of the sport. Its the nature of my curiosity as to, for example ...

Dave....My memory of Tatnuck (mid-1980's)..a Ross redesign of an 1898 Willie Campbell creation, impeccable conditions, great playing surfaces, abit short, narrow, well guarded greens...mostly great holes, a couple weaker then the others which seems typical...but all and all a gem. (at the time ...

Dave...interesting idea, how would Donald Ross design a DG course, keeping it relevant to his BG design theories. My guess is he would use a lot of elevated , small green targets well guarded...and since he preferred dogleg lefts to force RH draws (theoretically the more challenging shot) you'd see ...

Dave...hope you had a fun weekend and felt the warmth from your peers for the effort you made. When I saw the final score's I thought of the BG pro's who go to Augusta.. and when conditions are right, torch the place with silly numbers. And then they go to a US Open site where the course is turned ...

Dave....Thanks for the chronicle of event preparation, interesting stuff. What impresses me the most though is the passion you have for your work and those in your circle. You also seem to blessed with the understanding of how a piece of mother nature can get absorbed into our bloodstream. You are a ...

Titan...RF&G + DG is an interesting mix. Living in that part of the world as I do and knowing the rural / isolated component I wish you luck with it all. As for PCC I've heard of what you speak and it makes me sick. I refuse to drive in that direction anymore and if I never do again in my remaining ...

Titan.....kudo's for thinking outside the box with this idea. Whether its smart or not is a judgement beyond my wisdom, but I know at PCC using golf carts to get around was popular and made us briefly unique and apparently made the DG experience abit fun and different. As for guns, I often dreamt ...

Pat...reminds me of something you'd see at Woodstock back in the 60's, hmm..just say no

Patrick...

Thanks for the photo of Ross's Run #11 and the RIP, it was my favorite hole ..although I liked the water hole #5 and shady glen #6 and #13 around the big oak almost as much. It's nice to remember that Ross' Run actually happened and not a figment of my imagination. It still pisses me off ...

Titan...well done, its nice how the good looking guys get the great looking women and have beautiful kids. Enjoy.

Titan...I sent you a PM regarding PCC and Harvard Forest contact info. It would be nice to think it wasn't all for nothing, and you would perhaps be the perfect contact for them to rebuild the DG dream there. If you ever need help when the time comes let me know. I had rotator cuff issues that has ...

Titan...good luck with refining your local DG vision, the DG world is better off for guys like you who step up to the plate, sometimes risking ridicule or laughter. The many who sit back and snore are the problem , not the people of action.

Titan...IMHO if you want to affect participation in work details for course construction or course upkeep you need to have consequences for getting involved or not involved...as a NEFA member if you don't help out in a documented way at a course you don't get to play in a NEFA event lets say, or you ...