Celtics/Orlando

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:16 am

The ball never hit the rim.. hit the net, that's what changed the spin.

Also, I dont think they reviewed the play on film, they simply got together. I don't think it's a reviewable play... good for Doc he got them to change the call.

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:28 am

No way the net would generate that much spin

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu May 14, 2009 10:29 am

Kovo wrote:No way the net would generate that much spin

the ball NEVER changed it's trajectory.. there is NO way it hit the rim.

Felix Harvey · Post by **Felix Harvey** » Thu May 14, 2009 12:44 pm

Steve-O wrote:
Kovo wrote:No way the net would generate that much spin

the ball NEVER changed it's trajectory.. there is NO way it hit the rim.

I disagree, I saw a view that looked like the trajectory changed. I didn't think it was the right re-call but now I do. Look at 2:20:

http://www.realclearsports.com/video_lo ... ights.html

But nice sticking to your guns.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu May 14, 2009 12:49 pm

Anything the ball hits is gonna change the spin as well. Net, Rim, Banners in the Rafters, ANYTHING.

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Thu May 14, 2009 1:54 pm

felixh wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Kovo wrote:No way the net would generate that much spin

the ball NEVER changed it's trajectory.. there is NO way it hit the rim.

I disagree, I saw a view that looked like the trajectory changed. I didn't think it was the right re-call but now I do. Look at 2:20:

http://www.realclearsports.com/video_lo ... ights.html

But nice sticking to your guns.

Thank you Felix!

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu May 14, 2009 2:37 pm

Eric,

Simple physics really... a basketball has many dimples... when the ball hits any other object, friction is created, thus slowing the ball down ever so slightly and changing the speed of the spin of the ball.

IT DIDN'T hit the RIM. I've seen it from all angles, and my brother in-law was directly behind the Magic bench, as he was escorting some of the celebs that were at Game 5... he texted me right after the play and said there is NO way that ball hit the rim.

But at this point it doesnt matter, the call went the way of the C's and it helped them win the game. That's all we need to know.

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:04 pm

Thanks for the physics lesson

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:26 pm

There's also more camera angles, that "normal" people dont get to see.. scouting tapes from all angles of the arena.

Trust me.. didnt hit the rim.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:35 pm

I'd also like to know how, you can see if the ball definitively hit the rim based on the replays provided by Youtube and TNT... you cant.

Felix Harvey · Post by **Felix Harvey** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:53 pm

Steve-O wrote:Trust me.. didnt hit the rim. I am the bestest judge of all sports ESPECIALLY when it comes to dimples on balls and friction

How can I trust you when you say things like that?

I think we all know it was a lucky/bad call.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu May 14, 2009 4:37 pm

felixh wrote:
Steve-O wrote:Trust me.. didnt hit the rim. I am the bestest judge of all sports ESPECIALLY when it comes to dimples on balls and friction

How can I trust you when you say things like that?

I think we all know it was a lucky/bad call.

Bill Stewart · Post by **Bill Stewart** » Thu May 14, 2009 10:45 pm

Turnover city. I'm 100% confident for Sunday night. Rondo rules. Big Baby and Perk (all those offensive fouls weren't necessary) will fix the fouls and the Celts will roll.

We'll bang out the EMC and awards efficiently so that everybody gets home nice and early to watch the Celts.

Jeff Zipkin · Post by **Jeff Zipkin** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:04 am

suck it Celts!!!!!

way to fold,
pretenders.

MWAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA!

let the excuses begin.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:09 am

jzip wrote:suck it Celts!!!!!

way to fold,
pretenders.

MWAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA!

let the excuses begin.

no garnett, no powe, nba role players getting crunch time minutes.

hey jeff. FYF.

with garnett this series only goes 5 MAX.

Seamus Scanlon · Post by **Seamus Scanlon** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:17 am

Now Cleveland will not have to endure the embarrassment of one more loss on their way to the title.
Go Denver!

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:18 am

Very surprised this series made it to 7 games.

All things considered. they exceeded my expectations this post-season.

They will come back STRONG in '10, no doubt about that...the progression of Perk, Big Baby, and Rondo....a healthy KG and Leon Powe...and whatever additions they may make....preferably some depth at shooting guard. Something to look forward to...

Cavs vs Lakers in Finals....7 game series. Lebron wins his first championship.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:28 am

jzip wrote:suck it Celts!!!!!

way to fold,
pretenders.

MWAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA!

let the excuses begin.

What team do you root for?

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:29 am

Kovo wrote:Very surprised this series made it to 7 games.

All things considered. they exceeded my expectations this post-season.

They will come back STRONG in '10, no doubt about that...the progression of Perk, Big Baby, and Rondo....a healthy KG and Leon Powe...and whatever additions they may make....preferably some depth at shooting guard. Something to look forward to...

Cavs vs Lakers in Finals....7 game series. Lebron wins his first championship.

Powe may not be back until 11' torn ACL in the playoffs... remember how long Tony Allen was out? And for a big man, the ACL can spell the end of a career... let's just hope he comes back sometime before the playoffs next year and can help..

also be interesting to see what happens with Garnett's timetable, seeing as they delayed his surgery by 6 weeks...

Jeff Zipkin · Post by **Jeff Zipkin** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:52 am

FYF?! ouch. hit a nerve did i solbo?

every team deals with injuries. some during the season, some during the post season. them's the breaks.
did orlando complain that they lost Jameer Nelson, their All-Star point guard? did they make excuses? no, they manned up and BITCH SLAPPED THE DEFENDING CHAMPS. and did it with a POS PG.

yeah, garnett's good (and a bitch)...when he's on the floor. but he wasn't and the celts lost.
so how good is a player who is injured? none at all.
heck, i put up as many pts and grabbed as many boards as garnett did this entire post season. heck since MAR 27!
besides, 2 all stars isn't enough to win? find me one other team in the playoff with more than 2 all stars on their starting roster? there isn't.

next excuse please.

Jeff Zipkin · Post by **Jeff Zipkin** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:59 am

Todd Lapham wrote:
What team do you root for?

my loyalties are split between the Sixers (since I was a little boy and 1st saw Dr J work his magic) and Blazers (lived in the Pac NW for 6 years). say what you will, but i've been a loyal fan of both these teams through thick and thin.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:52 pm

"Bitch slapped" I'd hardly call going 7 games getting "bitch slapped." You have two teams that you can pick from, when's the last time either one of them won a championship? I wasn't even alive, I've been alive to see them lose in the finals a few times, but not win. Heck, they both got bounced in the 1st round. You're team also lost to Orlando with a POS point guard, correct? And in only 6 games...

Next hater comment please...

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:01 pm

jzip wrote:
Todd Lapham wrote:
What team do you root for?

my loyalties are split between the Sixers (since I was a little boy and 1st saw Dr J work his magic) and Blazers (lived in the Pac NW for 6 years). say what you will, but i've been a loyal fan of both these teams through thick and thin.

you are a tool.

blazers.. bounced without TMAC... Sixers... bounced by a [bleep] Magic team that is gonna lose to The Cleveland LeBrons in 5 Games.

Jeff Zipkin · Post by **Jeff Zipkin** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:31 pm

Steve-O wrote:
jzip wrote:
Todd Lapham wrote:
What team do you root for?

my loyalties are split between the Sixers (since I was a little boy and 1st saw Dr J work his magic) and Blazers (lived in the Pac NW for 6 years). say what you will, but i've been a loyal fan of both these teams through thick and thin.

you are a tool.

blazers.. bounced without TMAC... Sixers... bounced by a [bleep] Magic team that is gonna lose to The Cleveland LeBrons in 5 Games.

first off sir, learn how to debate without name calling. i don't dislike you, hell i don't even know you. however, your true colors are coming through in your vitriolic responses. grow up.

i never claimed that either of these teams is ready to make a run. yup, the celtics are better than both my teams. that's not the discussion. convenient to change the topic when my last argument gave you no wiggle room.

so tell me, is your excuse of no garnett legitimate now that i pointed out that the celts lost to an orlando team without their all-star PG? or, is it possible the celts simply lost to a team that is better, or at least outplayed them.
learn to lose with grace.

in the meantime, i'll gloat in silence.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:09 pm

Celtics lost to a team that got LUCKY. Simply put.

I would argue that the Celtics team, without their best PF, without their second best PF, and lost them at a point in the season when they couldnt trade for big men, or add them to a post season roster... was outgunned... barely.

Down low... Dwight Howard was pwned. Kendrick Perkins outplayed the "best center" in the game for 6 out of the 7 games. exception being game 7.

Magic shot LIGHTS OUT from 3... first time they did that in this series...

so go away sixers and blazers fan... your teams got dominated in the first round of the playoffs..not the semi's.. also.. nice to have 2 teams huh? I root for the C's... thats it, thats all...

Hey stewie... I know I hate you cuse of the Yanks... :wink:

but is your second favorite team the Texas Rangers?

YOU CANT HAVE SECOND FAVORITES... that's sports blasphemy...

ps: "tool" is pretty LIGHT name calling as far as this board goes.

Bill Stewart · Post by **Bill Stewart** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:43 am

No Solbo, my second favorite team is the Albany Backwards-asses. Although Jeff could be a Yankees fan, and since my NBA interest just went poof, I'll just chalk that last comment up to frustration.

C's were flat (as in out of gas) seems to be the angle around here. But "running on fumes" could have been used any time lately. I don't like that Doc shortened his rotation so far. And Mikki Moore proved to be more of a hindrance than help. He's no PJ Brown.

Here's to the Cavs beating the Lakers. One thing I can get fired up for is rooting against the Lakers!

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:39 am

Beat LA, Beat LA, Beat LA!

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:40 am

Jeff how can you gloat? Neither of your teams beat us. You are just being a hater. You'd think you'd want the team that beat yours to lose, guess that doesn't happen in haterland.

Jeff Zipkin · Post by **Jeff Zipkin** » Tue May 19, 2009 7:41 pm

guess i am being a bit of a hater. it's the NY/Boston rivalry i imagine...and i'm not even a NY hoops fan. wait, do they even have a hoops team in NY?

actually, i've always rooted for any team that beat mine since their moving on would suggest that we were 'beat by the best'. to be frank, i don't really have a horse in this race any longer, but i am a huge NBA fan. i will be watching as many games as i can, hoping for long series full of last second shots and compelling stories. Nugs/Lakers? bring it on. Cavs/Orlando? can't wait. the storylines are endless.

always been a huge Ray Ray guy, so i'm glad he got his...last year.

i don't root against many teams, just Boston/N England and any team with what i perceive to be a lousy attitude. if that makes me a hater then so be it. i'm sure many of you Boston fans root against my Yanks passionately. i can take it. rivalries are what make sports great.

my initial jab was meant to poke fun and ignite a healthy debate. wish some ppl wouldn't take it so personally. sports is fun. rivalries are fun. leave it at that.

Rob Tatro · Post by **Rob Tatro** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:35 pm

Holy bleep ... did you just see Labron? WOW!!