merrell: chameleon 4 gtx vs. refuge ultra gtx

[Jon Dunlap]

Anyone try either of these shoes? Need to replace my Moabs (because they fell apart). Trying to decide between these two and looking for reviews for either style, the Chameleon 4 or the Refuge Ultra. Thanks!

[Jeff Prendergast]

I'd like to know how they turn out for you. I replaced my Moabs every 6 months or so for the last few years (4-5 times total) and finally moved on to some Keen shoes at xmas. The toe quickly fell apart on the Moabs every time, because I drag the toe.

[Jon Dunlap]

Jeff, I have the same issue, and I was frustrated when the entire front half of the sole on my pivot foot came detached during a round. I like the fit of Merrells though, and I find the Keen toe too boxy and open for true comfort. It looks like wrap-around toe of the Chameleon may offer a solution to my issue, but perhaps not...thus this thread

[Shawn Mullen]

Jon, try something by Columbia. Mine have lasted twice as long as any pair of Merrells i've ever owned, and the fit is similar. The only Merrell shoes / boots I've ever been happy with are my Thermo 6 boots. They just don't last long enough for the price, every pair I've owned have ripped or the sole comes detached from the shoe.

[Jon Dunlap]

Stopped into LL Bean in South Windsor CT today, and they had the Chameleon 4 gtx on sale for $119. Better price than anywhere online, and many sizes (saw 11, 12, 9.5, 8, and some others). Also saw Keen Targhee II's for $99 (which may or may not be a deal). Either way, I had some stuff to return there (very open return policy there) and ended up getting the Chameleons for $25 out of pocket. They are real comfortable, and I look forward to seeing how they perform on the course (when this dang snow melts!)