Disc choice in terms of Over vs Understable.

[Chris Querengasser]

So I've been playing for a few years now wasn't all too serious, and then ended up getting laid off this past april (luckily back to work, same job more pay. HA!) so I spent a lot more time on the course, disc'd down and really improved my game (still have a ways to go, but i was shooting 20+ consistently where 20 was good for me, to now ranging anywhere from 8-15 with my average hovering around 13). Anyone on to my point, I've been throwing nothing but a full color and pro-d buzzz using RHBH and things were going fantastic, very straight rather predictable throws, now I believe I'm starting to turn my disc over (it just kind of keeps going right, am I using the correct term?) as I'm trying to put a little more power into my throw. I played around with a DX cro a buddy has the other day and my throws seemed to be much more, well straighter-er . My thinking it's a slightly faster slightly more overstable disc. Should I start investing into more overstable discs? I'm more of a discraft fan and was looking at something like a Wasp, assuming the Hornet is a little too overstable. Open to suggestions, what's good?

TL;DR: Buzzz's are starting go to the right now, should I start trying to throw more overstable discs?

[Karl Molitoris]

Chris,

There are basically two camps of thought regarding 'different shots' (and this applies to either ball OR disc golf); using different implements and working each the same way or using the same implement and working it different ways. For your application of disc golf, think of either:

Keep your throw the same and let a different (type of) disc do the work, or
Keep the disc the same and change your throw (angle, force, etc.)

Neither is better than the other and in the end odds are you'll end up with some 'combination of the two'.

Karl

[Jeff Prendergast]

TL;DR: Buzzz's are starting go to the right now, should I start trying to throw more overstable discs?

I appreciate the TL;DR. My answer to your question would be yes, try throwing more overstable discs and see what happens. Then incorporate it into your game if possible.

[Chris Querengasser]

OOOOOH! I should also mention that this is specifically when throwing RHBH tee shots. once on the fairway I don't really notice much of a problem. I also always throw from a stand still whether on the fairway or from the tee.

[Matt Aubin]

Both pro-d and super color buzzes are less stable than a new z. Maybe try out a nice fresh new z buzz and keep those others for under stable shots.

[Karl Molitoris]

Chris,

It's interesting that you say you have no 'turnover' problem off the fairways - only on tee shots. Since you S&D for both, you MUST be doing something different with some combination of your perception, power, or disc angle. It's actually a good practice to get into not ever throw any shot 100% effort (unless you're in a long-drive contest). In this way you'll always be in more control, able to replicate any shot (over)again, and 'have something in the tank' IF you need it.

Karl

[Chris Querengasser]

While I do put more into my drives than fairway shots I don't over do drives. I learned the hard way (hence the 20+ average for quite some time) form and control rules over power.

[Todd Lapham]

Both pro-d and super color buzzes are less stable than a new z. Maybe try out a nice fresh new z buzz and keep those others for under stable shots.

2nd this. I have a Z Buzzz that I've been throwing for 3 years and it still isn't understable, just nice lost all it's low speed fade.

[Doug Callaghan]

Grab a pain and volt. Pain i think is the overstable mid you would be looking for. Great disc, get goldline. Volt is a fairway driver, id recomend it bc you said you throw without a run up. Volt is great for that. Very easy fairway driver to handle from a stand still. Great in wind also. Good luck!

[Andrew Tabaczynski]

Discraft Stalker is another that isnt a High speed driver, but would be a good option for control and being able to test with more power, or forced turnover. Wasp is another good choice for mid ranges that might be more stable than your currently using, but i think what people already reco'd about getting a z buzzz should be done first, plenty of guys who are top touring level use buzzzes for hyzers, straight shots, and turnovers... might be the best midrange ever... IMO

[Chris Querengasser]

word, you guys shred! Gonna try out a Z buzzz and maybe a wasp. sticking to the mids for another month but definitely into some driver suggestions when I get back to those suckers. I also plan on incorporating the x-step into my game hopefully this summer.

[Rob Breckenridge]

I'm not a "one brand" disc kind of guy, that being said, I agree with Doug on the Bolt. Lattitude 64 makes some excellent plastic.
For control drivers that will turn over or hold the release line I'd recommend.

The Vision in Gold Line
the River in Gold Line

For Mid Ranges. Try the Core, I love my Buzz's and Rocs but the Core is my go to.
Also, The Fuse, and Pain are great Mids, Fuse has a glide rating of 6 and it goes forever.

If you forehand at all try
The Havoc or Halo in either Opto or Gold Line, they are high speed drivers but are fairly easy to flick.

good luck, keep throwin'