MA NEDGC qualifiers

Arty Graustein · Post by **Arty Graustein** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:17 am

Trenton:

If it doesnt work out well then next year we can change it. I believe that this will be good for the masses and hope that people will trust me. that is why I was elected in the first place, was it not?

How about reversing the mentality here? Listen to the opinions of the people that voted you in. Give them a shot and if they are wrong then change it next year.

Kenji Cline · Post by **Kenji Cline** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:33 am

Craig Cutler wrote:Josh is correct.

2012:

CT = 76
MA = 260
ME = 27
NH = 41
NJ = 13
NY = 32
RI = 14
VT = 22
Oregon = 2
Total = 487

80% of the 2012 Final participants and Points series Winners were from Mass. The proposed 2013 allocation is an attempt to sustain/grow/save NEFA outside of Mass.

I'm not a MA resident so this really doesn't matter to me but I wanted to give an opinion. Trent you should have some more qualifiers. Maybe not all as many are suggesting but more than the 10 you have planned. Here in NY/NJ we are doing 6 for the 45 members that the plans were based on. MA had 260 members last year I think you should be up to at least a dozen qualifiers 15 probably better. And with some events already filled you should be picking events that registration hasn't opened up yet for just to be fair and let your members have a fair chance to sign up with the knowledge that it's gonna be a qualifier. (Sorry Devens)

Troy Dietrich · Post by **Troy Dietrich** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:58 am

I've changed my opinion and agree that we should include all Mass NEFA tourneys as qualifiers. 10 isn't enough, and if you go to 14-15...might as well go all the way. There were only 18 NEFA events in Mass last year. Leaving 4 or 5 out is just a slap in the face to those events. Maybe we could even fill Bosquet this year.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:03 pm

Troy Dietrich wrote: Maybe we could even fill Bosquet this year.

Kenji Cline · Post by **Kenji Cline** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:55 pm

Troy Dietrich wrote:I've changed my opinion and agree that we should include all Mass NEFA tourneys as qualifiers. 10 isn't enough, and if you go to 14-15...might as well go all the way. There were only 18 NEFA events in Mass last year. Leaving 4 or 5 out is just a slap in the face to those events. Maybe we could even fill Bosquet this year.

I didn't look at how many nefa events there were in MA last year if there was only 18 then yes I agree that leaving some out would be a slap in the face. I presumed there was like 25-30. I think the ball has been dropped a bit with the timeliness of the decision making process. As Devens has filled already without it being declared a qualifier. Not a big deal but it should be declared a qualifier before reg opens. No fault of Devens crew.

Luke Adolph · Post by **Luke Adolph** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:08 pm

Kenji Cline wrote:As Devens has filled already without it being declared a qualifier. Not a big deal but it should be declared a qualifier before reg opens.

I'd be pretty upset if more tournaments became qualifiers and Devens wasn't considered because it went on sale before this series was ironed out. We fill out a region on the map & have an overwhelming # of current nefa members playing. We should be considered just as every other event would be. I'm not even sure if the list of events was posted online before our registration began.

Doug Callaghan · Post by **Doug Callaghan** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:15 pm

Devens haters, whatever. Is this going to be rotated year to year? I mean if you need 4, having your home course as one of those picked is a pretty big advantage and a pretty big disadvantage for home courses not picked.

Arty Graustein · Post by **Arty Graustein** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:24 pm

I agree with Luke. I think most of the people who signed up for Devens thought it was a qualifier to begin with and I'm willing to bet there are some in it that don't even realize it isn't a qualifier right now. Luke I'm pretty sure the qualifiers were posted AFTER your registration opened.

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:25 pm

It's being worked out as we type. Looking like all NEFA events in a region will get used. I think devens should get included regardless of when registration opened.

Luke Adolph · Post by **Luke Adolph** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:27 pm

Thanks guys. Whatever happens, I just want to ensure we are considered equally.

Kenji Cline · Post by **Kenji Cline** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:48 pm

Doug Callaghan wrote:Devens haters, whatever. Is this going to be rotated year to year? I mean if you need 4, having your home course as one of those picked is a pretty big advantage and a pretty big disadvantage for home courses not picked.

Not a Devens hater just think that in fairness that players should be aware that an event is a qualifier before registration opens (or at least before the event fills) to allow a fair opportunity for all to register. Again no fault of the Devens crew. Sorry Luke just trying to give an opinion based on fairness.

Luke Adolph · Post by **Luke Adolph** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:57 pm

No problem, I am sure it will work out fine. I'd agree with you if the dates were already set when devens reg opened.

Doug Callaghan · Post by **Doug Callaghan** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:32 pm

Kenji Cline wrote:
Doug Callaghan wrote:Devens haters, whatever. Is this going to be rotated year to year? I mean if you need 4, having your home course as one of those picked is a pretty big advantage and a pretty big disadvantage for home courses not picked.

Not a Devens hater just think that in fairness that players should be aware that an event is a qualifier before registration opens (or at least before the event fills) to allow a fair opportunity for all to register. Again no fault of the Devens crew. Sorry Luke just trying to give an opinion based on fairness.

That wasnt directed at you Kenji in anyway. Its a little telling though. Honestly as long as it rotates year to year then its fair.

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:24 pm

All NEFA events will count as qualifiers for all regions, including MA.

Matt Aubin · Post by **Matt Aubin** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:31 pm

Matt DeAngelis wrote:All NEFA events will count as qualifiers for all regions, including MA.

Greg Wintrob · Post by **Greg Wintrob** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:33 pm

As Matt posted, the NEDGC committee just voted to allow all NEFA events in a region to count for regional qualifier. All regions except MA will be using best of 3. MA will be best of four.

Luke Adolph · Post by **Luke Adolph** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:15 pm

Awesome, thanks guys!

ira divoll · Post by **ira divoll** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:25 pm

I am a big fan of the decision. Thanks to all involved; looking forward to seeing you all on the course!

Tim Carter · Post by **Tim Carter** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:44 am

Matt's post says all nefa events count for ALL regions

Greg's post says all events within a region count for that region.

I am guessing Greg's is the more accurate description? Could you please clarify? Thanks!

Mike Dussault · Post by **Mike Dussault** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:13 am

All NEFA events will count for each region.

Good news. Great decision.

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:43 am

Right, within each region, all NEFA events will get used.

Arty Graustein · Post by **Arty Graustein** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:55 am

I'm very pleased with this decision. Thanks for taking the time to work it all out and keeping us informed along the way.

John Tserpes · Post by **John Tserpes** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:23 am

I like what NEFA is trying to do with Finals. Now with all events being accepted for each region they aren't qualifiers. It is basically another point series inside a point series.

Is it manditory that you have to play the minimum amount of regional events to qualify for finals? Like can you play 2 regional and 4 outside the region or 3 and 3 and finish good in the regular point standings and still make it in?

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:13 am

You are a MA resident, so you will be competing for an invite against other MA players. The NEFA points events in MA will be used as the qualifier tournaments, and it will be the top 4 for each player to determine invites. You cannot use NEFA points events from other regions to count towards the NEDGC invites, however, ALL NEFA events will still give you points towards the season standings. Which again, accounts for 60% of the money raised over the course of the season. There is still a large incentive for people to continue to play outside their region.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:41 am

Matt DeAngelis wrote:.....ALL NEFA events will still give you points towards the season standings. Which again, accounts for 60% of the money raised over the course of the season. There is still a large incentive for people to continue to play outside their region.

Your name on the Sap House Wall of Fame if you win your division !!!

Kenji Cline · Post by **Kenji Cline** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:58 am

GOOD CALL!!! 8-)

Are past events also incuded? IE: Kisco?

Greg Wintrob · Post by **Greg Wintrob** » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:58 am

Please track me for Mass. Thanks.

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