2015 NEDGC Host Course Bid Process - OPEN

[Bill Bertera]

NEFA is happy to announce the opening of the bid period for the 2015 New England Disc Golf Championship. First proposed by a NEFA member on this board last year, and voted on by the NEFA BOD earlier this year; starting in 2015 the host course(s) for the NEDGC (formerly NEFA finals) will be open for bid to all courses in NEFA Land. The requirements and application is available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FMB ... sp=sharing. Click File -> Download As -> Microsoft Word to save a local copy to edit. And the requirements are also listed below. Bids will be received starting now until August 31, 2014. We would then plan to announce the location of the 2015 NEDGC at the 2014 NEDGC (awards or party).

I don't know that we've nailed down the actual date yet. But based on previous years, it would be either weekend of 10/10 or 10/17.

If you have any questions about the requirements please post here, or PM me or Matt or your state rep. Please don't hesitate to discuss with us if you think you will have a problem meeting one of the requirements, but still want to be considered. You can email your finalized applications to me (towelie@gmail.com), or go through your state rep.

Requirements

Site must be able to host 90-player tournaments for AM and Pro on the same weekend. This can be accomplished with a 2-day event on 1 course, or a 1-day event on 2 courses. If using 2 courses, they must be on the same property or within reasonable driving distance of each other (10-20 minutes MAX).

The property(s) used must provide ample parking for all participants.

The property(s) used must be dedicated to the NEDGC for the duration of the event. This means no other large non-NEDGC events taking place at the same time, and that the course will be closed to the public for the entire weekend.

The property(s) must provide ample restrooms for all participants.

The bid must include a players party during the weekend, either on the property or very close by.

Tournament must be PDGA Sanctioned.

Bids must be received by August 31, 2014.

NEDGC must be held the weekend of ___________.

Application must be signed by property owner or responsible property manager.

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Matt or Jeff, can you move or copy this post to whatever forum makes the most sense, or sticky it?

[Dave Jackson]

Excellent job gentleman.

[Craig Cutler]

good job! Warwick A Tier for Pros is 10/18- 10/19. just in case that matters for Pro division draw.

[Dave Jackson]

One thing course owners and operators should consider if they are going to be bidding on this opportunity, please estimate your expenses accurately as NEFA as an organization has ample funding to host this event.
During this event's inception, the idea was to make this the premier event for NEFA members. The idea was to make this the event every NEFA member was gunning for to compete in.
This is coming form someone who has seen first hand the expenses involved in hosting premier tournaments. Said expenses really add up and are necessary to run an event like the NEFA BOD are envisioning.

Again, great job to all making this Bid process happen.

[Chris Young]

Brewster Ridge at Smugglers Notch,VT would be a killer venue, I hope Spring throws it in the hat.

[Dave Jackson]

2nd

[Craig Cutler]

great points Dave. Can bidders build in incentives to their proposals? (TD compensation, local club compensation).

Warwick could pull off a ridiculous NEDGC. It's a crazy amount of work though, is NEFA willing to compensate a local club or TD?

[Bill Bertera]

thanks for the discussion. We've already received 1 bid, keep them coming.

To some of the questions:

Craig: Is that date for 2015? This is planning for 2015, so if you have that date already, great. Either way, we'd want to make sure that whatever date is chosen for NEDGC does not conflict with any major local tournaments.

Dave/Craig: There is a section in the application for funds needed. So they can certainly request funds/compensation into the bid, and it will be weighed as part of the decision.

[Craig Cutler]

Thanks Bill, That date is for 2014.

[Kyle Moriarty]

Not that I am placing a bid, but would it be possible to see what people are putting in for bids? Might be cool to see what people are proposing and draw a little more interest. You can exclude any of the $$$ if you want.

[Kenji Cline]

Not that I am placing a bid, but would it be possible to see what people are putting in for bids? Might be cool to see what people are proposing and draw a little more interest. You can exclude any of the $$$ if you want.

I work in grants for the state of NY. In contracting procurement RFPs this is a big no no. It gives advantage to those who see what others have proposed and thus adjust there proposal to be a little better.

[Bill Bertera]

I can certainly ask when people submit if they would like to make it public, but I would tend to agree with Kenji that nobody would want their bid posted so as not to give other groups an advantage. Hopefully after a selection is made we can post them all.

Kenji, is DisCAP looking at a bid for any courses out your way?

[Matt DeAngelis]

Would love a DISCAP finals in 2015...just sayin.

[Kenji Cline]

Thanks for the props Matt. NY was in line for the rotation for 2015 but at this point in time with the new requirements I don't think we are quite ready. We could do it at JPark over 2 days but we are a little more focused on growth locally. We are blowing up. We just opened a short technical 9 holer in chatham with plans to add another championship level 18 hole course to the same plot of land. We have like 104 acres of woods and an reclaimed gravel mine to work with. A ball golf course just purchased 9 baskets and we just installed them this past week. Still tweaking the layout a bit. We have a 9 holer that will go to 18 once the town gets done working on a landfill cap problem in Niskayuna. May get this to 12 holes this year. We have 3 other areas that want courses, and a state park that is designing a 18 hole course that we just made contact with so we can help them as well. They are expecting to be ready for 9 baskets end of this month or early July. And expanding to 18 within the next year. I want to petition the town where J is to expand to 36 holes. We have 5 old holes to reclaim and room to add more. Hope to have a dozen or more courses under the DisCap umbrella in the next year or 2. Plus we being approached for a lot of outreach events. We hold a beginners clinic every month, just did a big community health fair this past weekend where we were approached to do some other similair events, we are doing a canal days fair in the beginning of July. Too much opportunities for us I guess is a good problem to have. Trying hard to grow our local membership so we can have more bodies to complete all this work.

Sorry for the thread drift. I like how this process is coming along. I oversee grant procurements and contracts for NYS so the nefa finals rfp process is right up my alley. nefa will get better at procuring a finals vendor. We may throw our hat in the pool in a year or 2.

[Titan_Bariloni]

it's true DisCap has blown off the face of the planet for DG growth/evolution

population + Dedicated + Free Land + Organizational Skills + DG = Kabooom

the discap model should be formulated and emulated throughout the kingdom

[Matt DeAngelis]

Discap is unique in that there is a [bleep] of land that is not protected. MA has a lot of land, but it is all conservation land. Makes it much harder.

[Pete Charron]

KILLING ITTTTT!!! DisCap = UNREAL growth. Inspiring, I hope that someday soon Western Mass can be a similar bed for the sport's growth..

[Kenji Cline]

Feeling the LOVE!!

[Craig Cutler]

Why don't we just offer discap, buff, maple hill, pyramids, or wedge $1000 to run the finals? Is $1000 good incentive to pull this off? Surely nefa can afford it and many players support it. The $1000 would be reinvested in disc golf anyway.

[Jeff Wiechowski]

Why don't we just offer discap, buff, maple hill, pyramids, or wedge $1000 to run the finals? Is $1000 good incentive to pull this off? Surely nefa can afford it and many players support it. The $1000 would be reinvested in disc golf anyway.

Like

[Kenji Cline]

I like the procurement process that is going on. Add in a G to the host club/course and the offers would come rolling. We would have to consider drafting a proposal.

[Craig Cutler]

Without incentive, why would a quality regional club make a bid? Running an event like this is a huge amount of work. Let's give incentive so that our best regional clubs have a reason to host. If a proven club wins the $1000, they will re-invest it back into NEFA courses, so its a "win win".

[Mike Dussault]

Why don't we just offer discap, buff, maple hill, pyramids, or wedge $1000 to run the finals? Is $1000 good incentive to pull this off? Surely nefa can afford it and many players support it. The $1000 would be reinvested in disc golf anyway.

Duhhh!!! This is the best idea ever.

[Dave Jackson]

Do it

[Bill Bertera]

Is the suggestion that the $1000 be above and beyond any expenses NEFA would pay for? Or the $1000 would encompass all expenses to run the tournament (green fees, rental equipment, party, etc...)

[Craig Cutler]

The $1000 would act as compensation to the hosting club/entity. The compensation helps justify the countless hours dedicated to pulling of an event of this size. If NEFA prefers low cost, volunteer based type events, I think we will find it very hard to pull off sustainable events on an annual basis.

[Craig Cutler]

For example, if Wedge, Discap, or Maple Hill won the bid, imagine what they would do with the
$ 1000. They would put it right back into the growth of the sport. Just as effective as awarding a grant.

[Titan_Bariloni]

polictics aside from the K stack in regards to clubs/course

I think $$$ would be better served getting some media behind the event
if only 90 people(players competing) ever get to see the event it will be difficult to "grow" the event past that day

if a semi quality production of the event could be released via download,dvd,etc etc that could then be marketed to the masses not at the event may lead to bigger things evenutually happening for the event

Actually I would love to see some of the "majors" all semi covered throughout the season as well

Nefa seems to be stuck in "text" only mode and no real video of the years happenings...that is not current with the modern trends and technologies the world desires

my wooden nickle on the matter

[Bill Bertera]

The $1000 would act as compensation to the hosting club/entity. The compensation helps justify the countless hours dedicated to pulling of an event of this size. If NEFA prefers low cost, volunteer based type events, I think we will find it very hard to pull off sustainable events on an annual basis.

Thanks for the clarification. I'll make sure to bring this idea up as we plan for the next bid process cycle. Its too late to change/budget for this one, already received bid for it. And as we've said a club is free to budget/ask for whatever they want in the application.

thanks for the feedback, and keep the ideas coming, I'll make sure any reasonable idea is discussed. and more importantly, keep the applications coming, less than 2 months left.

[Dave Jackson]

The $1000 would act as compensation to the hosting club/entity. The compensation helps justify the countless hours dedicated to pulling of an event of this size. If NEFA prefers low cost, volunteer based type events, I think we will find it very hard to pull off sustainable events on an annual basis.

YuuuuuP!!!