Long and understable

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:31 pm

I haven't been able to keep up with new discs at all in the past year.

Can someone recommend a good fast, long, and understablish driver?

I had thrown the Groove for a quite a while and tried the Katana a few times but was curious if there is a clear go to now for this sort of thing.

Jaxon Sheehy · Post by **Jaxon Sheehy** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:36 pm

the Tern has made a pretty big splash as far as new molds go, but its not quite as fast as a Katana- however, that makes it easier to act understable without mashing on it

the Crank is understable-ish depending on arm speed and skill. i found it really easy to throw.

and if you're looking for flippy and very fast the Lat 64 Bolt is very understable... but it's not that new. it's been out for 3 years or so.

Rob Breckenridge · Post by **Rob Breckenridge** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:56 pm

I'd agree with Jaxon, the Bolt is a speed 13 understable disc with a very nice predictable turn, also if you like Lat 64 plastic, which I do, check out the Vision, it's a bit slower but sick glide and a nice reliable turn as well, don't even think about throwing either of these into a headwind (I learned the hard way). Opto plastic is their version of champion, I find it a tick more stable than Gold line which is their version of star and just down right sexy and very durable. The new prodigy series might also interest you, I have a D4 that I am getting used to, somewhat flippy and may earn a spot in the bag, still need more field work to really get a sense of the flight pattern and characteristics, happy hunting.

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:59 am

A beat in Lace.

John Giampapa · Post by **John Giampapa** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:37 am

Eric Kevorkian wrote:A beat in Lace.

Bingo!

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:55 am

The Tern in lighter weights will be pretty flippy. Tremendous glide.

Patrick Harris · Post by **Patrick Harris** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:40 am

Champion Mamba seems to be the better ones that can do nice anny drive with not too much efforts.

Snap it clean smooth and DON'T force the disc to anny. Let it do its job.

Also Mamba has smaller rim which makes it easy to control than larger rim disc.

I do have beaten Lace in my bag but it's unpredictable in any windy conditions.

Patrick Harris · Post by **Patrick Harris** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:42 am

Patrick Harris wrote:Champion Mamba seems to be the better ones that can do nice anny drive with not too much efforts.

Snap it clean smooth and DON'T force the disc to anny. Let it do its job.

Also Mamba has smaller rim which makes it easy to control than larger rim disc.

I do have beaten Lace in my bag but it's unpredictable in any windy conditions.

Correction - Domey Champion Mamba, not the flat-top Mamba.

The domey ones seems to turn better than flat ones.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:23 pm

Thanks everyone. This is helpful.

Dave Jackson · Post by **Dave Jackson** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:08 am

It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian, Cheef.

Craig Smolin · Post by **Craig Smolin** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:05 am

175g star sidewinder ... might be the most versatile neutral stability to under-stable disc out there ... might not be as long as a krait, mamba, or tern ... but still incredibly controllable ...

Drew Smith · Post by **Drew Smith** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:31 am

I thought you were talking about me with an erection.

John Giampapa · Post by **John Giampapa** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:21 am

Dave Jackson wrote:It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian, Cheef.

It's not the wand, it's the magician.

Dave Jackson · Post by **Dave Jackson** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:24 am

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3SBzmDxGk

Michael Morin · Post by **Michael Morin** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:48 pm

Craig Smolin wrote:175g star sidewinder ... might be the most versatile neutral stability to under-stable disc out there ... might not be as long as a krait, mamba, or tern ... but still incredibly controllable ...

star Sidewinder is a pretty sweet disc indeed - i did however move to mostly Discraft for my driver selection and an ESP Avenger SS took the place of this. Been around for quite some time, it holds up to some wind and seems to be pretty controllable for my throwing style. Granted, i dont have the big arm of many out there but it does get the job done for my distance capability. First-run ESP Crank is also in the bag. Has a tad more fade at the end and can produce a tad more distance as well.

Yep - so many discs out there and waaayy too many colors.....

Shawn Mullen · Post by **Shawn Mullen** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:55 am

Craig Smolin wrote:175g star sidewinder ... might be the most versatile neutral stability to under-stable disc out there ... might not be as long as a krait, mamba, or tern ... but still incredibly controllable ...

Speaks the truth.......that really fast stuff is unpredictable.

Davis Johnson · Post by **Davis Johnson** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:30 pm

Drew Smith wrote:I thought you were talking about me with an erection.

It's not the meat it's the motion. (Wham, Spam, thank you M'am)

Christian Collins · Post by **Christian Collins** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:06 pm

i like my star archon for understable driver

the champ archon (same weight) is much more stable.

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