Should women be allowed To play with men at tournies?

[Joe Yaskis]

Can people who are males play in a tourney with females? Can females play in a tournament with males ? Just askin a question? And what is correct and what is not? Is nefa for everyone or no?

[Dave Jackson]

Yes women should be allowed to play in tournies with men.

Also, there should be "Women only" tournaments and there should be "Men only" tournaments and there should be "Juniors only" tournaments and there should be "Masters+ only" tournaments.


there's no valid reason not to have tournaments that are mixed with all peoples involved as well as events like I described above.


More events grows the sport.
Growing the sport is good.
Good is what the whole darn world needs.

Right?


Now, everyone go melt the damn snow already!!!

[Dave Townsend]

Bingo....what Dave said.

If you want a men's only event, why not run one?

Plenty of dates left open.

Myself for the forseeable future, I'll stick to representing the faction that makes up 8% of the disc golf demographic, women & juniors.

2/3 of the market have been virtually left to fend for themselves in the disc world (women & juniors). Everyone that TALKS about growth should look at that number and realize what nurturing it will do for TRUE GROWTH of the sport. Juniors account for 1,580 of the 24,443 active members. Women account for 1,883, and I'm sure there are some of the female/juniors who are accounted for in both demographics. If not,

22,560 men versus 1,883 women.

The numbers speak for themselves, sounds like men's only events have been going a while to me......

[Jeff Prendergast]

Growing the sport is only good if the number of courses grows proportionally with the number of players. Food for thought.

[BridgetBohnson]

Bingo....what Dave said.

If you want a men's only event, why not run one?

Plenty of dates left open.

Myself for the forseeable future, I'll stick to representing the faction that makes up 8% of the disc golf demographic, women.

2/3 of the market have been virtually left to fend for themselves in the disc world (women & juniors). Everyone that TALKS about growth should look at that number and realize what nurturing it will do for TRUE GROWTH of the sport. Juniors account for 1,580 of the 24,443 active members. Women account for 1,883, and I'm sure there are some of the female/juniors who are accounted for in both demographics. If not,

22,560 men versus 1,883 women.

The numbers speak for themselves, sounds like men's only events have been going a while to me......

[Joe Yaskis]

Growing the sport is also letting everyone play. I will have a blue eyes only tourney. I have brown eyes so I guess I'm out. It's bout time this board heated up. Have a great day everyone. Get out there and melt some snow.

[Dave Jackson]

My eyes are Blue!!!!
I'm in

[James Lane]

This is lame trolling Joe.

I expect better

[Joe Yaskis]

Thanks James

[Sean Franchi]

Wait, Joe's having a men only "brown eye" event ?

[Bobby Direnzo]

Good old NEFA board always deleting my comments. How I miss this place. I didnt even swear, I was voicing my opinion.

[Matt DeAngelis]

Totally unintentional BoB! Sorry about that. I tried to move the thread to the general discussion area where it belongs and it ended up cutting everything else off.

[Jasan Lasasso]

My 2 cents:

Promoting women's disc golf is not about making things 'fair'. It's about building a solid foundation for the sport to grow upon. Women make up 51% of our population but only account for 8% of disc golfers. If we want to see disc golf grow, the most imminent way to do so is to double the number of players by encouraging women to play. Since the majority of the sport is dominated by men, it is unlikely that women's participation will increase unless we actively encourage it. This means doing everything possible to foster the growth of more ladies in our sport, including hosting women's only tournaments.

Years down the line it will be very difficult to pitch new courses if they will only be utilized by a small percentage of the population. Someday your favorite course could be replaced to facilitate a sport more accommodating to the entire population. PDGA gets this. So do a lot of other major stakeholders in disc golf. That's why the PDGA allows women to play in both men & women's divisions, and the Maple Hill Open accommodates all pro women.

It's not just about doing it for the women, it's about doing it for the sport.

Again, just my opinion.

[Bobby Direnzo]

Totally unintentional BoB! Sorry about that. I tried to move the thread to the general discussion area where it belongs and it ended up cutting everything else off.

Its all good just busting balls.

[Titan_Bariloni]

If dog walkers invent a disc style game for dogs it's over for dg as we know it

Bob ball's busting hmmmm

[Bobby Direnzo]

If dog walkers invent a disc style game for dogs it's over for dg as we know it

Bob ball's busting hmmmm

Better than busting it on your face.

[Titan_Bariloni]

micro fiber towel

[Titan_Bariloni]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGh3P9mILIQ

is this why joes mad?

[Titan_Bariloni]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcW_jNy5HG4

Joes intense

[Matt DeAngelis]

My 2 cents:

Promoting women's disc golf is not about making things 'fair'. It's about building a solid foundation for the sport to grow upon. Women make up 51% of our population but only account for 8% of disc golfers. If we want to see disc golf grow, the most imminent way to do so is to double the number of players by encouraging women to play. Since the majority of the sport is dominated by men, it is unlikely that women's participation will increase unless we actively encourage it. This means doing everything possible to foster the growth of more ladies in our sport, including hosting women's only tournaments.

Years down the line it will be very difficult to pitch new courses if they will only be utilized by a small percentage of the population. Someday your favorite course could be replaced to facilitate a sport more accommodating to the entire population. PDGA gets this. So do a lot of other major stakeholders in disc golf. That's why the PDGA allows women to play in both men & women's divisions, and the Maple Hill Open accommodates all pro women.

It's not just about doing it for the women, it's about doing it for the sport.

Again, just my opinion.

Excellent summation of the reason why women's only events should be encouraged. Same goes for Junior only events.

[Josh Connell]

There's going to come a time when Women's only or Juniors only or Masters only tournaments are going to be the norm not out of a desire to promote the game, but purely out of necessity. Along with those tournaments will be Pro Open only and Advanced only and Intermediate only tournaments, among others. Basically there will come a time when tournaments with multiple divisions will be entirely unnecessary because any individual division will be able to fill a 54/72/90 player field all by itself.

We're already starting to see the genesis of that with tournaments going to split days in order to accommodate more people in each of our dozen regular competitive divisions. Instead of seeing Pro days and Am days, we'll see Open days and Women days and Advanced days and Recreational days. It's coming. Why fight it?

[Dave Jackson]

Bingo Josh.

[Matt DeAngelis]

Yuuuuuuup

[Travis Bushore]

Right on guys, grow the sport. There is ladies first registration going on for the first event at Stonykill, but I would be surprised to see it fill within the week before men's registration opens up. There is still a lot of work to be done.

[Scooter Feely]

Great post Josh; I agree. If that is where we are going to end up, and if people think that is where we should end up, then the question becomes; what should we be doing today to facilitate this.

[Dave Townsend]

My 2 cents:

Promoting women's disc golf is not about making things 'fair'. It's about building a solid foundation for the sport to grow upon. Women make up 51% of our population but only account for 8% of disc golfers. If we want to see disc golf grow, the most imminent way to do so is to double the number of players by encouraging women to play. Since the majority of the sport is dominated by men, it is unlikely that women's participation will increase unless we actively encourage it. This means doing everything possible to foster the growth of more ladies in our sport, including hosting women's only tournaments.

Years down the line it will be very difficult to pitch new courses if they will only be utilized by a small percentage of the population. Someday your favorite course could be replaced to facilitate a sport more accommodating to the entire population. PDGA gets this. So do a lot of other major stakeholders in disc golf. That's why the PDGA allows women to play in both men & women's divisions, and the Maple Hill Open accommodates all pro women.

It's not just about doing it for the women, it's about doing it for the sport.

Again, just my opinion.

[Titan_Bariloni]

Basically there will come a time when tournaments with multiple divisions will be entirely unnecessary because any individual division will be able to fill a 54/72/90 player field all by itself.

We're already starting to see the genesis of that with tournaments going to split days in order to accommodate more people in each of our dozen regular competitive divisions. Instead of seeing Pro days and Am days, we'll see Open days and Women days and Advanced days and Recreational days. It's coming. Why fight it?

Great post Josh; I agree. If that is where we are going to end up, and if people think that is where we should end up, then the question becomes; what should we be doing today to facilitate this.

not sure some divisions would fill 54above at least in this area maybe at peak times of season under ideal conditions that being good td with connections and lots of legwork previous to event

some yes
just need TD's willing to sacrifice a weekend rather 1day and good player support to make effort worth it0

also some potential TD's only want specific people around and rules like all divisions offered hinder that and for regions such as nefa where events are all but always piggied backed to nefa points during peak season that hinders their ability to have that, added with other rules like only one event a season per traversed terrain also hinders them from breaking the events up over the year instead of catering to 2 very different crowds on same weekend and giving the players a more personal adventure..just becomes cattle push em flip em get er cleaned up

I think the question is how to get more diverse crowd to play then further play into competitive play...to then force the issue over need rather then what td's/players/orgs want

that would be this huge long rant more so then above

once we do split that does kinda screw sponsor ship sources as the ninch narrows into an even more acute audience where as now at least the events can reach junior to senior male/female although some sponsors might want to target a specific audience so maybe they would join IDK...like I said can of worms

first DG attaching to already been there ORGS for years and adding DG as an extension would be obv quick,most bang then trying organic growth through players finding the sport,finding league,finding event