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I've so sold out to the evil lite empire of Facebook, our porn without sex, for the ever shrinking attention spans our electronic obsessions march us toward.

We've moved all of this Warren Disc Golf discussion to Facebook 501 Disc Golf, which kind of feels like sucking dick without really wanting to.

I dunno. Seems like practically everyone I've ever known reads my outrageous albeit insightful rants on Facebook. They chime in from different countries and different eras of my life like dreams where your high school friends are all mixed up with your college friends. It's disorienting.

Cause I can write. I can write circles around a preposition and spit out an exclamation that no one saw coming. Ding dong.

I can juggle paragraph breaks while splitting infinitives. When people talk, I diagram their sentences. I've read Strunk and White, like, twice.

And just between you and I, some grammatical mistakes border on inexcusable.

With mere words, I can express more emotions than there are Marshall Street colors, while suggesting associations. Red orange? Fading adrenaline rush.

I possess a large enough vocabulary to avoid profanity entirely, if at the moment I happen to fkn give a sht.

I will miss NEFA Discussion. I offended so many people here, who so deserved it.

Goodbye NEFA Forums. I trudge off fearfully to Facebook, where regular people might read what I write. I will have to tone it all down or risk offending more people.

Okay let's go with risking offending more people for 200 Alex.

To finally finish my very last NEFA post before unretiring, I'd like to tell all of you very few people compared to Facebook, that it's been a blast.

It's allowed me to combine two of my favorite things, typing and beer.

Probably shouldn't say stuff like that. When I get to Facebook. I'm already scared, and glad my 95-year-old dad isn't notified whenever I post. Some people are, though.

Just because I'm flattered doesn't mean they're not losers. Being flattered does mean that I'm a loser, though.

Goodbye real people. I'm off for likes, comments, shares, and numbers reached, for electronic affirmation and attention. God help me.
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great post
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Can someone copy and paste Jason's posts, so all of us non-facespace users are up to date on his always enjoyable rants? Thank you.
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For Todd and the other non face sitters.

"Today was another great day in Warren, with the same six people who usually come to Sunday work morning. Bill and Bill, Mike, Emily, JJ and me.

We rough cut most of the fairway(s) on the Far Corner hole, maybe Hole 12. What a gorgeous hole. We get a lot done in three hours.

After another delicious lunch, we put together one of the Prodigy baskets and putted at it. Fly18 rubber is also coming soon. Just talked to one of my heros Reese Swinea, the Fly18 guy.

Yes, yes and yes, the word of the day.

Today I sank my only two putts, from like 25 and 40 feet, with a bunch of people watching, with a Vibram Summit of all things.

It was really weird. One of the thoughts I took away from this was that the Prodigy Basket inspires confidence.

The other was, now, for the rest of my life I have to make sure to never putt again in front of any of those people.

Then I realized that won't happen. We'll wind up playing together eventually, maybe before the bee sting competition is officially over. That's when we have the first real tournament there cause the course is done (with still plenty to complain about), but with baskets and tees and signs and portolet.

18 tees, 36 baskets. A place where a reasonably fit grandmother can take her 10 year old granddaughter and play a round of disc golf, without getting lost, scratched, wet or bitten by rattle snakes.

Probably should leave the rattle snakes out of the final ad copy.

Then of course, it has to be fun and challenging (and fair) for the pros. Personally, they kind of wreck it for everybody, maybe because I've been binge-drinking beer since 3:30 anticipating the Pats game.

They can putt, they can drive, and they have psychological menstul cycles exactly in tune with PDGA player rating updates.

Then again how mesmerizing it is to see spectacular shots, surrounded

by sound and consistent play?

It's what we all strive for in little glimpses.

It's why we're getting two sets of baskets."
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Re: New Course in Warren, MA

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Are you guys going to continue to work on the course on Sundays through the winter? My ankle is much better, torn ligament or tendon. Can't remember what the specialist said.
I wan't to start helping again as needed.
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I've unsold myself from Facebook, kind of. I don't like Facebook, but it's just a symptom.

I'm at odds with the whole fkn world, to be frank. And no my name isn't Frank.

I like text and smaller audiences. And truth...preferably my version, which is the best kind. You know why I like my truth better than other people's truth?

Mine's true. It's hard to get something like that across without sounding arrogant.

Life is full of questions. Big hypothetical questions. Like, If you had to give up either irony or hyperbole...wait let's talk about this.

Sanity is a double-edged sword. Damned if you are, and stop looking at me!

Jamie Sunday work continues. Pretty sure snow and ice has cancelled tomorrow, though.

You are needed, and appreciated.
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So we haven't been able to gather for a lot of work days lately. Snow can do that. But I've been out to further survey this uniquely shaped piece of land a couple times recently and had 16 of 18 holes fairly confidently flagged, with the other two needing to fit within specific boundaries. The end of the tunnel was a tiny dot in the middle of the screen on a very old TV.

I asked T.M. Dyer and Bob DeCostas, old friends and old school Rhode Island disc golfers, to come and take a look. So we go out last Thursday with Bill Holmgren the owner -- four of us -- and we walk the course. T.M. and Bob are extremely helpful with their insights, and it's awesome to have experienced brains and eyes check your work.

In my mind, it was an essential day in building this course.

So we take a look at Hole 3, which now has a wet area, and T.M. and Bob point out it's most likely a vernal pool. Dang, but then again, it's not that great a hole to begin with. Problem is, if you don't have that hole you have to change, by my latest count, 3, 4, 5 or 6 other holes.

So yeah. Bill agreed we should bite the bullet, skip the denial phase, and make the necessary changes to avoid the Vernal Hole. Ultimately the the course will be better for it. The new Hole 3 will be much better.

It's the other stuff that still needs figuring.
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the lil newts appreciate it!
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This just popped up on my FB feed. so i scrambled here to the Nefa board to see if there was anything to catch up on.. I am all caught up now.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/ ... river_home

I got excited as Warren is close to my new home and it looks like things are getting juicy. (i.e. meeting with the planning board)
I would love to pitch in any way I can and glean any info possible from the process as i would like to get something cooking on town land here in Belchertown,
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We burned 6 brush piles on the new hole 3. Not an easy task as the hole is an elevated hill with about 6 inches of snow on it. Hopefully we don't get too much snow this week so we can start burning the piles on hole 4.
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great work people!
hope all works out for ya
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Re: New Course in Warren, MA

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Saturday was a productive day. 3 volunteers were on hand to clear up hole 4 and burnt down 9 brush piles.
This is the most in a single days work.

Sunday we will be out again to hopefully break the 9 pile record.

As always we can always use the help every Sunday.
Saturdays are "We will see what the weather is" but have been lucky in that area.

So if anyone would like to come by to help out we start at 9:00 and the address is 501 Old West Brookfield Rd, Warren, MA 01083. I drive Rt 9 West and take a left on Warren Rd.
GPS will bring you past the house. It is on the left of a sharp corner. White house with a red barn.

This course will have 18 holes. 1 tee pad and two baskets per hole. Prodigy baskets http://prodigydisc.com/accessories/targets/
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Re: New Course in Warren, MA

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This past weekend the crew worked on holes 5 and 6.
We burnt down 10 brush piles and took down six more trees.
Plenty more to do and as always, we are looking for volunteers for Saturdays or Sundays. Work starts at 9:00 am and goes until you want to leave.

We would like to open this season but without additional help it looks like the earliest will be spring of 2017.


Here is a link to the facebook page for pictures and updates.
https://www.facebook.com/501DiscGolf/?fref=ts
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See you at church tomorrow. Not to get too heavy or anything, but we're not just building a course, we're inching closer to God...

Somehow. Okay so the whole not drinking thing isn't going quite as scripted. Shoot my phkn balls off.

See you tomorrow, Discafarians, weather or not.
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Well, the workday has been cancelled. So much for late night boastful talking.
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So, after making Jay Petruzzi create a Facebook page for this course -- thank you Jay -- I stopped posting on it, and stopped posting on social media entirely. Technology in general is suspect. And I'd like to make the Purge movies a real thing, except instead of having one special day when you can kill people, you can smash people's smart phones with impunity. We can pick the day later, but to give this grassroots movement some traction, we could start selectively smashing smart phones now. Making sure, of course, to video each incident on a "Don't smash THIS one" phone.

But I don't consider NEFA Discussion social media, maybe because it existed before the term "social media" became, like the thing itself, ubiquitous.

So here's an update. Several months ago, Jaime Perron jumped on board. He lives close, loves disc golf, and seems to have committed to the project.

He's a great worker, and, it turns out, a pyromaniac.

Then I made a hoooooooge contribution, probably the best contribution ever, because, hey, I have the best contributions: I introduced Guy Lyman to Bill Holmgren, and now Guy works there two days a week and sometimes Sunday morning. Guy is a disc golf course building machine. It's what he does. And he's become highly skilled with chainsaws -- Guy owns seven chainsaws, which kinda pisst me off cause I thought I was cool for owning five. All 12 are Stihls, so I at least get some residual Guy coolness rub-off.

The course keeps getting longer, and we keep finishing the rough cut on more holes. Remember two baskets and one tee on each hole.

Right now five holes basically need to be rough cut, and 13 holes have been mostly or completely rough cut. Three holes, although we generally know where they're going, still need to be designed.

And it's fun and complex on multiple levels. And evolving before our eyes.

Truth be told, I haven't been there in maybe three weeks, during which time Guy has probably been there six times. Weather was a factor. I also have this stoopid company I work for, and which has me often questioning the meaning of all sorts of things. I do feel guilty for not being there for so long, but the achy, aging part of me is happy to live vicariously though Guy, as he continues to build the course, while we sit inside at a computer and contemplate the vagaries of technology and commerce, and where our life went wrong.

We'll be there Sunday barring extremely bad weather.

Time to kick this into higher gear.
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We did, in fact, kick it into higher gear. Gill and I went out there Friday with Guy and Bill Holmgren, and aside from some work and burning on Hole 13, we started and finished the rough cut of Hole 16 -- I'd guess about 380 to the long pin gradual downhill anny. Then on Sunday, we had Bill, Guy, me Jaime Perron and a new 20-year-old who lives down the street named Jake.

And we pretty much finished the rough cut on 14, and burned six or seven brush piles.

Guy was going to work on Hole 2 today maybe, and if he finished that, we now have just three more holes to cut: 10, 12, and 15. All three of those still need to be designed.

Always with disc golf course design, there's a fundamental question: Where should we put the tees and the baskets? There's a bunch of other things to keep in mind to reach correct answers. But that's usually the big question. And not only do you have to decide both where the tee and basket goes (or in the case of Warren, where the two baskets go), this one little dual decision has to jibe with 17 other holes. It gets jigsaw puzzlish.

Which is just a roundabout way of saying that I really wish I knew where the tees and baskets on Holes 10, 12 and 15 should go. But I'm thinking about it, and kinda have several ideas which, in their current evolutionary state, still seem maybe stoopid. Part of the non-linear process. It gets so deep that I get too drunk to articulate it.

But we're closing in on it fast, and soon we'll be planting more baskets and cutting rubber.

Making the tee pads? That's gonna be something. Crappy tee pads need not apply!

Hey, it's a long and winding road, yet we're eyeing a (maybe unrealistic) fall of 2016 opening. Guy says yes, but mere humans are skeptical.
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A lot of days are the greatest day ever, but today was particularly the greatest day ever.

We completely finished cutting the wall hole, Hole 11, which now has maybe a 20-foot wide fairway, with an OB stonewall on the left of its entire roughly (measured with a cell phone app) 440 feet to the short pin, and probably another 100 to the long. Slightly uphill.

Guy Lyman, Bill Holmgren and his friend Bill, me Jaime Perron, the new 20-year-old Luke. Michelle and Sarah Holmgren burned five piles on the recently finished Hole 2. We have just till the end of the month to burn, so we made piles on the Hole 11 extension as we cut it and torched two piles we continuously fed.

Lunch was awesome. Tacos with really all the fixings.

People were working hard, especially Guy, who continues to be an animal with opposable thumbs and a chainsaw. (No idea what that means.)

It's starting to have that great feeling of everything happening faster than expected.
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Here's an update. Guy's been going twice a week during the week, and sometimes Gill and I join him on Friday.

Then we usually work Sunday mornings with a larger group of volunteers. Right now we are a hole and a half away from finishing the rough cut, 18 baskets have been assembled, 8 of them planted, and the second set of Prodigy baskets will be arriving soon.

The Fly18 tee pad rubber has been delivered, and we're looking at a fall opening.

Tomorrow some of us will be there from 9 to 12. Come lend a hand and check it out.

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Last Sunday saw a big improvement but wait... better news at the end of this post.

The volunteer crew of Jason, Shane, Jake and Jaime along with owner Bill, cut the rubber for the tee pads.

Bill and Jake hauled off the Ranger loaded 4x4 to deposit the tee pads in the general location while the other three cut the rubber. (no one was hurt in the process which is amazing in itself. This is a bunch, well one of us is a bit of a clutz.)

After all was said and done there was one pad missing on hole 13. The crew went out in search of the missing pad but it could not be found until later that day it was located sitting near the tee of hole one. (Rejoice!)

So we start work on installing the tee pads this Sunday.... but wait, there's more!

During the week 501 notified their Facebook followers of receiving the 18 blue Prodigy baskets for the long course.

So now we will be on double duty of installing tee pads AND assembling the blue baskets and installing them.

As always we are looking for volunteers who can help out on Sundays starting at 9:00 and working until you feel like going home but at least wait until after the homemade lunch.
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Re: New Course in Warren, MA

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This past Sunday was a big day for us here.

We had 10 volunteers for the day.

We broke ground and started to install the tee pad at hole one. None of us are experts at this but Jason Southwick had the best knowledge.
So with this knowledge and some trial and error we started the task.

The base will be 7' x 12'.

We dug down with Bill at the helm of the tractor and several people on shovel detail. A tamper is in need to compact the gravel so we needed to stop there.
Other work that went on was some weed wacking and poison ivy spraying.

Just a reminder to everybody, the course is NOT OPEN FOR PLAY yet. Stop by and lend a hand on Sunday mornings 9-12. The more volunteers we get the sooner we can open. We are still planning on an opening date this fall, if everything continues to run smoothly. The next upcoming weeks will be spent beginning to install tee pads as well as fine tuning the fairways. Hope to see some new faces this upcoming weekend.

From everybody at 501, thank you.
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The teepad mantra: Big, flat, level, grippy, safe.

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Yeah baby. We're building the tees! I just emailed Bill that I think Guy can finish all the course work that still needs to be done by the time the rest of us build the tee pads. Should teepads be one word?

I need to decide.

Anyway, Gill and I are going tomorrow with everything we need to finish Tee 1. Perfectly. How many people out there have ever made a teepad with either Gill or me? We both did it a bunch of times, separately and together, always with other people. Most of the early teepads I was involved with, before Gill, were "natural," by today's standards fundamentally unacceptable. The many people who've made teepads with me over the years, and can really remember, know that my knowledge has evolved, and of course still has limitations, some of which I'm aware of.

One challenge for the whole times-18 thing, is that we'll need two kinds of teepads. One by digging a hole and leveling the frame at ground level and then gravel and stonedust with a plate compactor before the rubber. The other is to build a deck and nail the rubber to it. Probably a wooden deck. The follow-through area will be the deck itself, with the rubber -- the tee proper -- several feet before the front edge, which still shouldn't drop off precipitously. If possible.

There are nine million possible ways to make a flat, level, firm deck for the 5x10 piece of Fly18 rubber. My true expertise is knowing how to find the person who knows how to make a solid, preferably heavy, deck for a teepad that we'll need for those tee areas where digging a hole is impractical or, with our level of machinery, virtually impossible.

Outer Dimensions 7 x 12 feet. We're using pressure treated 6x6's for the tees we dig holes for.

As always, we're looking for big, flat, level, grippy, and safe. Because we're talking about decks, we should add that they can't jiggle when you're throwing. This is not a small thing. Deck tee pads need to be as solid as the kind of people who've read both the Bible and the Koran without taking sides, AND put the tools away.

So, here's how:

Does anyone out there know someone who knows how to do that? Like, really. There are a lot of good models out there to choose from, but who's got rock-solid advice on the perfect deck pad?

Right now we've dug the hole for Tee 1, and we'll dig the hole for Tee 2 shortly, and then Tee 3. So there's time to ponder all those holes and future teepads where we can't dig holes cause it's all rocks. I like what Ken Gary and Co did at the General.

One more secret about me, one that has become a running gag here at Marshall Street. Early on at Warren someone accused me of only liking my own ideas. That's not quite true. Because as soon as I like your ideas, they ARE my ideas.

And btw, who's coming Sunday? Who's got a Sunday morning free? One disc golf work morning and cross off church AND the gym.

Here's the clincher, if you come to just one workday, your name will go up on a disc golf tee sign practically forevever or until the world ends.

So at least six or seven years. Plus we all get a really nice lunch.

We have lists and we check them twice. Then after we get the sign printed we realize we forgot somebody so we print another sign. Then we sell the first sign at online auction, and buy beer, continuing the circle of life.

Come to a workday in Warren and your name goes on a sign.

It's not just a promise it's Nostradamus.
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4 of 18 tee pads finished

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I hate exaggeration, and strictly adhere to only factual renderings of reality.

Flowery prose, fancy punctuation, elusive vocabulary: a superfluous manifestation of the metaphysical imagination.

So yes, obviously, I've been drinking.

But man, we've been building, of all things, a disc golf course. And it's going well. It's been about a year in the making and it's the one thing I'm doing that I don't HAVE to do.

I won't say that we've got 18 baskets in the ground already, because we have 36 baskets in the ground already. A set of Green Prodigies for the shorts, and Blue Prodigies for the Longs.

I'm setting my sights on November for an opening date. There are some hurdles, like final town approval, which is typically cryptically in limbo for several months. Been there with towns, which are not businesses; customer service is not a thing.

But we also have the rubber cut and in place at all 18 tee pads (1 tee 2 baskets) and so far four perfect tee pads finished. Trap rock, gravel, stone dust, wooden frame, plate compactor, water, shut up Gill.

Everything. The owner has a tractor and an ATV we're getting down to business now.

We're not so much building a course at this point, but finishing one. The initial design is nearly finalized.

The main concern at this point is figuring out how to get the tractor to the tees to dig the holes. We can lug material with the ATV. And btw this ain't my first rodeo.

Believe it or not I've been the main tractor guy for the first four tee pads. Bill, who just got the brand new tractor, is even less experienced than me.

And on the first four tees, we picked the low-hanging fruit, namely the tees -- Tees 1, 2 , 4 and 18 -- closest to our piles of trap rock, gravel and stonedust, and also easily accessible by tractor.

Let me back up here to thank a couple outstanding guys, Jamie Perron and Guy Lyman, who have both put in tremendous amounts of the kind of hard labor you need to transform a course from a conversation to an actual course that people will play for years and years. Thank you Jamie and Guy.

So now the scary thing for me, because at this point I'm not stopping till the course is done, and the tees can't suck or be ground tees because this is pay to play, which automatically means there's no sinking to crappy tees. When tees are perfect, you never think about them, because you're watching your perfect shots, emanating from a foot sheathed by a sports shoe contacting a big, firm, grippy, level surface, with nothing to fall into, or trip over.

Key the God music. Nirvana is not just the name of a band.

But getting Bill's nice new tractor to the spot, well, that's where I'm having trouble. Cause I've been getting death threats. From my subconscious.

Because the first time I ever drove a tractor I was 49 years old, and doesn't anyone who wants to be an Olympic figure skater, for example, have to start earlier than that?

Plus I've witnessed tractor genius.

Here's what I'm driving at. We'll be doing it again Sunday. Does anyone want to come who really knows how to drive a tractor? It would be amazingly helpful.
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Okay, I just want to be clear about one thing. I'm still scared of the tractor.

But less scared. We've almost finished the 6th tee -- Tee 5 -- and we're doing such a good job.

Bill has dug another three holes for tees -- a big part of the process. The thing with the tractor I was scared of was going up the hill. After I watched Bill go up the hill, I then went up and down the hill seven or eight times in a row, each time up with a bucket of trap rock, gravel or stone dust, in that order of layering.

These are not your grandmother's teepads.

I'm scared, but not scared of dying on Bill's tractor. I'm more scared of dying underneath it after it rolls on top of me.

It's a weird fixation, one that disappears once I actually put my ass on the tractor seat and fire it up and start rolling. That's when fear dissipates, and my true self emerges -- the reincarnation of a ninja warrior with modern day superhero tendencies.

Embrace your imaginary self could become the latest self-help movement. Make a list of qualities you'd like to possess and possess them, dammit:

Honest, kind, punctual, knows instinctively where the brake is, immediately drops the bucket to the ground in an emergency, not brave.

Hey, we create our own reality. And inside that reality, if you're lucky, there's enough room to make a disc golf course.
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Doi. I quoted myself by accident while editing, then deleted it, but can't delete this.

Wow I should shut up finally.
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I went up to 501 toady and measured the elevation of the entire course.
There are some interesting changes to say the least with the tallest uphill at +55'
The (opposite of tallest) downhill is -64'

The green baskets play at 5,511' and the blue baskets play at 7,162'

The blue basket on one hole will change and become longer.

Get your arms ready boys the blues are not for the faint of heart!
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Yeah Jamie. Once again, thank you for doing so much. Without people like you, what would we do? Without people like you, I'd still be building Pyramids. Wait, that's not true. Without people like you, I never would have built Pyramids, because without people like you, disc golf wouldn't even exist.

I'd love to cure cancer, and in my fantasies I do. And in other fantasies, where through superior technologies that I've invented -- in this instance the DNA GPSer -- I can target and kill (and psychologically fk with, before killing) ISIS bigwigs. It all sounds implausible until you realize that I was born 300 years in the future and sent back to save humanity. Luckily I don't have to sleep, cause otherwise leading the Celtics to multiple, consecutive championships would leave too little time for me to develop teleportation, and to sneak birth control into the drinking water -- and not into ALL the drinking water. I'm not a monster! Just into the water that PEOPLE drink.

At an Oprah ccktail party I approach Bill Gates about this idea. He leans over and says, "Jason," cause my name in my fantasy life is Jason.

"We've got that covered," explains Bill Gates. "We've put a pregnancy suppressant in the plastic of water bottles ranging between 30 and 100 percent, and base distribution on global starvation rates and Republican gerrymandering.

"You're such a genius," I gush. Say what you want about Bill Gates, but anyone who can invent a vaccination that can sterilize your grandchildren is ahead of his time -- and at a nano-atomic level that technology won't be able to detect for decades, to boot. I think to myself that Bill will never get to see the statues built in his honor, then torn down in his disgrace, before future historians eventually settle on "The (Evil) Nerd Who Saved Humanity."

"Thank you for doing that already," I tell Bill Gates. "Now I'll have time to pitch for the Red Sox this year, and play Team Challenge. But first, there's this other thing..."

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Thanks to my teleportation invention, we're suddenly in my other fantasy, bridging the real and imagined. We're standing at the long blue pin at Hole 10 in Warren, which Gill and Guy and Bill and Mike and Shane and another Bill not to be confused with the "Other Bill" -- a third workday Bill --, and Jake and Emily have lengthened by cutting and clearing so now the short basket is where the long was originally planned, on top of a big rock, and the new long basket is all the way to just in front of another big rock, probably 400-something feet away from the tee. The first 250-300 feet is smooth sailing, until the fairway narrows to 30-feet wide and takes a subtle turn left for the next 150 feet or so.

After some explaining I ask Bill Gates to look over the big rock at the other spot the basket could go. Bill clamors up the rock, then walks around the rock, all the way up to the tee, back to the rock, halfway up the tee, and back to the rock and climbs on top of the rock, and says,

"Don't make me make that decision. I'm totally cool with reducing the human population without, you know, letting humans in on it, but it's hard to distinguish whether putting the basket beyond the big rock is the right thing to do for the wrong reasons, or the wrong thing to do for the right reasons. Or just stoopid."

And he's right, and we talk, and liven the discussion with the new 3D Einstein and Elvis apps, both of whom, not being disc golfers, really didn't know either.

We wind up talking into the night, Bill Gates, Elvis, Albert and I and eventually realize that there's plenty we don't know, and can never know, and for all sorts of reasons we keep forging ahead anyway.

We get really drunk, and because we want to make Elvis happy and shut him up we promise to put the basket 100 feet behind the rock.

It's maybe not the best decision-making process, but if it still seems like a good idea in the morning we're sticking with it.
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Re: New Course in Warren, MA

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Re: New Course in Warren, MA

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Thank you Thomas.

Last Sunday we finished the 9th tee pad out of 18. All 36 baskets are in the ground. Almost all the cutting has been done. Signage is in the conceptualization stage. There are plenty of other details to attend to.

We're now concentrating mainly on the new tee pads. We've got a brand new, bigger, more reliable plate compactor, a nice big tractor, a side-by-side ATV, and -- most important -- a dedicated band of volunteers and owners that work with us, feed us, and make sure we have the equipment we need to get the job done.

Oh yeah, the Town of Warren has given its approval for this to be a disc golf course.

It's pretty much a dream project, and we keep plugging along.

One thing we do need are a few more people on Sunday mornings. It's of course all voluntary, really fun, great exercise, and lunch afterwards is consistently terrific.

If you've got a Sunday morning to spare and you'd like to help get this course up and running by November, drop me a line at jason@marshallstreetdiscgolf.com.

Imagine how many disc golf courses would never had been built if it weren't for volunteers. So be a modern day disc golf hero and come to a workday.
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Re: New Course in Warren, MA

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Update:

11 teepads complete.

We are averaging 2 teepads a week right now with 4-5 people per day. Think of the possibilities if more people showed up on Sundays.

Talk about the tee signs are in the works as well as the other small things like trash, parking, etc.
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