New course locations suggestions

blacktideao · Post by **blacktideao** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:08 am

Perhaps we can post recommendations for new course locations that people in the area might be interested in pursuing? If you live near one of these places and would like to pursue creating a course, say so and we'll what help can be provided and if anyone's already inquired about the location.

Here's where I know of:

Stanley Quarter Park, New Britain, CT: Park is open to having course, fund raising needed to purchase supplies.

Ansonia Nature and Rec Center, Ansonia, CT: Owen Zimmerman is laying out the groundwork, see other thread.

Timberlin Park, Southington, CT: good land and access

Ragged Mountain Park, Southington, CT: HUGE, and all woods. Largest park in area, and 4x the full size of Panthorn, potential water. Mostly undeveloped as rec area. Some trails for hiking/biking.

Giuffrida Park/Lamentation Mtn. ST park: Beautiful park, with lake and pond, variable terrain, Lots of extra land past main walking circle around lake, easy access and parking, cool natural features: mini gorges and beaver ponds, flora, etc. Great possibility.

Sleeping Giant State Park, Hamden, CT: Has anyone talked to them yet? It's huge and perfect.

Wadsworth Falls, Middlefield/Rockfall/Middletown, CT: Bigger than I thought, multiple access points, lots of parking, water, variable terrain and flora.

[bleep] State Forest, CT: It's the huge patches of area south off route 9 by Middlesex, just google it, it's huge.

Those are some of the one's near me... Google Earth rulez

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:34 pm

blacktideao wrote:[bleep] State Forest, CT: It's the huge patches of area south off route 9 by Middlesex, just google it, it's huge.

Really? Are you serious? That leaves a lot open for that first word.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:43 pm

I would like to see something in Metrowest. It's kinda a black hole. 35-40 min. ride to any course. Devens, marshall, buff, borders.

There are a few state forest around like in sudbury/marlborough area that may be usable.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:23 pm

Wanna talk black HOLE?

Metro SOUTH is a funk HUGE black hole.

the Rte 3 Corridor NEEDS a course non-island side.

Plymouth.. Myles Standish... I mean the place is doggone HUGE and apparentely has a slew of fire roads.

Wompatuck in Hingham has been mentioned.

There is nothing between Burgess and Topsfield, coast wise.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:25 pm

But no one cares about the cape. :lol:

Eric Maurer · Post by **Eric Maurer** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:54 pm

Valley Falls - Vernon CT

Case Mountain - Manchester CT

Del Reeves (google map Reeves Road)- Old Nike/Hercules missile sight. Glastonbury CT.

Matt Reed · Post by **Matt Reed** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:37 pm

Case Mountan would be awesome.

Someone on here had mentioned Mansfield Hollow, Mansfield, CT before.

Shawn Mullen · Post by **Shawn Mullen** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:06 pm

Valley Falls - Vernon CT

Case Mountain - Manchester CT

Great suggestions. I have a coming soon.....East Hampton, CT. I work for the Parks and Rec. Dept. Town is in the process of getting some open space. Hopefully the wheels will start moving by the fall.

blacktideao · Post by **blacktideao** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:24 am

Cool Shawn, is that going to be over near the salmon river? or maybe near the viaduct? My uncle lives in East hampton on 50 acres and would be perfect for it, but he said no

As far as the [bleep] state forest, I'm talking about c o c k a p o nset SF. it's because of the C0ck in it.

Hmm... I know of other nike missle sites around too.... They make for good paintball sites.

Bolton Notch State park would be cool too. I believe there's an old drive in movie theater on the site that would provide some very cool alleys and existing trails. It's right off the left side of 384 right as it ends before splitting into 44/rt 6. There's also a sweeeeeet tunnel there that goes under the road that's huge and would be a friggin awesome hole to throw through one end to the other.

OOOooo I almost forgot, there's a huge place in middletown that's one of the pieces of the c0ckap0nset SF that has a ridiculous amount of land and what's not outlined by the park lines on google is wildlife management land, in other words, open any time of day for anything (including hunting). There are ponds, marshes, rivers, A SMALL QUARRY, grassy fields with groves in the middle, power lines, the ponds are probably reservoirs and are off limits, but everything else... There are some of the best Mt biking and Jeep trails in the state there. You can ride a jeep all day there and not hit the same trail twice. I know it well, and is one of the remaining secluded places in the state to have a raging outdoor party if everyone has 4x4's. If anyone wants to hike around there and check it out, let me know and I'll blow your mind...

Shawn Mullen · Post by **Shawn Mullen** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:32 am

Cool Shawn, is that going to be over near the salmon river? or maybe near the viaduct? My uncle lives in East hampton on 50 acres and would be perfect for it, but he said no

Hopefully Pine Brook Aquafur (How do you spell that anyway?), or possibly the old fireman's grounds by salmon river. Town is still dealing with all of the b.s. with the land so it's gonna be a while but it'll happen.

Karl Molitoris · Post by **Karl Molitoris** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:36 am

May I suggest that we try to "spread the courses out". It's nice (and convenient) to advocate another course near an existing course...especially if it's near YOU, but I think it better serves the sport to "place'em where there ain't any yet".

This is sort of a catch-22 (a course near other courses has players from which to draw from - for volunteer work, etc., but a course near no other course "foots the bill" moreso regarding growing the sport better).

Think of it this way. We have obtained players who - more likely than not - have come into the sport because they are somewhat near an existing course (got hooked on it and can play it frequently...keeping the thirst alive). Another course near the one that "bit them" wouldn't have bitten them any more (it only takes one!). BUT someother course - in East Jebrew somewhere - MAY bite some other potential player (whom otherwise wouldn't be exposed to the game). THIS IS HOW WE GET NEW PLAYERS.

I'd LOVE another course near where I live but there are a few already. How about in the SE CT area? How about in the NW CT area? Anything in MA west of HCC? Etc.

Karl

blacktideao · Post by **blacktideao** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:50 am

I'm really hoping to see one near new london/mystic area...

You're right on the double edged sword. Do we build on the existing player base or try to draw new people from pushing outward.

How about both?

blacktideao · Post by **blacktideao** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:55 am

-That's also why I was thinking the middletown area.. It's starting to head further south and east. There's virtually nothing east of new haven. If we keep creeping outward we can use some existing people and invite new ones too. It's going to be tough to go too far that the regular players won't want to drive that far when there's more closer. It would be great to have a nice course near the ocean. Think pebble beach... Maybe Bluff point State park in new london?

Paul Oechsli · Post by **Paul Oechsli** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:18 am

Just to further weigh in on Karl's point.

It takes a lot of energy/resources to put in a new course. In areas that have a decent concentration of courses already, I think that the sport is better served putting these limited resources into improving, maintaining, expanding on the existing disc golf courses in the area.

Within ~ 20 miles of Hartford or so we now have 4 courses (incl Heroe's).

Pretty good penetration level.

I'd favor efforts in this area to make these courses all bigger, better, etc instead of diluting resources for additional courses in the area.

Quality over Quantity.

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:00 pm

Paul OX wrote: Pretty good penetration level.

That's what she said.

Heather Eng · Post by **Heather Eng** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:44 pm

blacktideao wrote:-That's also why I was thinking the middletown area.. It's starting to head further south and east. There's virtually nothing east of new haven. If we keep creeping outward we can use some existing people and invite new ones too. It's going to be tough to go too far that the regular players won't want to drive that far when there's more closer. It would be great to have a nice course near the ocean. Think pebble beach... Maybe Bluff point State park in new london?

re: bluff pt in Groton- the view from the bluff is priceless. however bluff point has heavy foot/bike/dog/horse traffic. not sure what reserve and preserve means (in terms of land use), but i know it has both.

rocky neck state park? haven't been there yet.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g ... iwloc=addr

RNSP map here http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a=2716&q=325256#map

it was a hard decision to move to such an 'isolated' town, lacking amenities like a golf course within 50 miles. but the weather is ridiculously mild on the shoreline, so it is an ideal location for a destination course. i will happily volunteer my time toward any SE CT new course initiative. many of my colleagues are ann arbor transplants and they know of DG. i think a local course would get a lot of use.

keep up the brainstorming!

Eric Maurer · Post by **Eric Maurer** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:42 pm

Paul OX wrote:I think that the sport is better served putting these limited resources into improving, maintaining, expanding on the existing disc golf courses in the area...

I'd favor efforts in this area to make these courses all bigger, better, etc instead of diluting resources for additional courses in the area.

Quality over Quantity.

How about a silver/gold layout at Wickham?

Chris Bunce · Post by **Chris Bunce** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:47 pm

I think this thread needs to be revived.

I'd love to make some more headway on a course at Mansfield Hollow. When I brought it up last year I wasn't sure how committed I was, but now it seems like it'd be a sweet summer project. Years have passed since someone tried, maybe there's been some changes in staff and the newcomers would be more receptive to the idea. If there's interest, we can continue this discussion here:

http://www.nefa.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php ... eld+hollow

E.MauMau, Case Mountain is also a sick idea. I think we should go out there one day and just take a look around, maybe put together an object course or see if we can progress further.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:51 pm

METROWEST NEEDS A COURSE!!!!!!!!

Ken Ostiguy · Post by **Ken Ostiguy** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:06 pm

I was in touch with The Trustees of Reservations about putting a course in at The Rock House reservation on Rt9 West Brookfield/Ware line. They were very interested in getting more information about trends, traffic and impact on hikers. The place is beautiful with acres of woods/meadows. They were already involved with the creation of Tully and seemed open to this idea. I just had a hard time putting together an informational package for them. Would love to rejuvenate the idea with them, but I'd need help gathering the information they need.

Tim_Griskus · Post by **Tim_Griskus** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:42 pm

I am going to be going to talk with the head of the Enfield, CT Park and Recs Department in the near future, there is the Frank Mancuso Rec Area in Enfield that is not getting used for anything, there is so much land / wooded areas a river and just this amazing amount of land that would make for an awesome disc golf course. There is room for a Pro Shop as well, it would make for another great course in the northern CT area.

I'll keep everyone posted on what the Park & Recs Dept says, I might see if the head would like to go out and play a round as well.

Tim RB

Joe Vaughan · Post by **Joe Vaughan** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:56 am

KO wrote:I was in touch with The Trustees of Reservations about putting a course in at The Rock House reservation on Rt9 West Brookfield/Ware line. They were very interested in getting more information about trends, traffic and impact on hikers. The place is beautiful with acres of woods/meadows. They were already involved with the creation of Tully and seemed open to this idea. I just had a hard time putting together an informational package for them. Would love to rejuvenate the idea with them, but I'd need help gathering the information they need.

I wrote the first draft of the RWDGC proposal ... mostly just reworked the on that was used for a course in San Francisco ... but it might be a useful starting point for you. PM me your email address and I'll send you a copy.

boston93430 · Post by **boston93430** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:01 pm

wompatuck PLEASE....i've heard rumors that we're waiting for bland mou to come through, but this location would be perfect. Huge land and lots of parking, closest course to me is Bland which is almost an hour...with no traffic...

Tim Kapushinski · Post by **Tim Kapushinski** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:50 pm

we definately need something near middletown, there is nothing in the southeast part of ct, i think anything off of rte 9 would be perfect

Jack Nickel · Post by **Jack Nickel** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:10 pm

I don't want to jinx this but I'm getting good vibes from the new P&R guy in Essex, Ct. (exit 3 off rt.9, mins. from I95) I was involved with a proposal given to the former board that ran P&R but they didn't have a clue. This new guy is young and knows about Disc Golf and wants to do some demo days. There is an area of land called Viney Brook that may be a sweet spot for a course (fingers crossed).
I've lived in Deep River for 8 years now so I no all to well about living in a Black Hole of not being near any courses, suX!
I'll post any new info. I get and I might be calling out to NEFA land to help with a demo day/temp. course.

peace,
jack

David Wollner · Post by **David Wollner** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:16 am

There has been some progress with the Park. There are some areas under review and more info will be forthcoming.

Andy Murray · Post by **Andy Murray** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:29 pm

Has any one ever checked out Callahan State Park on the Marlboro/Framingham line in MA? Seems like they have a lot of land. Mostly mountain biking and hiking there. I have not been in a while but it seemed like a prime spot.

Nicky King · Post by **Nicky King** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:57 pm

I'm all about Callahan State Park! It's BEAUTIFUL!!! It's 820 acres - 100 of which are open fields. It's gi-normous and it's all by itself out here. Metrowest is in desparate need of a course. Let's make it happen!

Jason_Graham · Post by **Jason_Graham** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:53 am

Another nice area in Groton, CT is Copp Family Park. I've walked out a 18 hole layout with a nice mix of woods and field shots. Waiting to bring proposal to town. Probably resistance, though they cleared/fenced in an area solely for dogs. (called Central Bark). The area has its on sub commitee in the town parks & rec. dept. They originally said they'd like to keep the area "low impact", not much lower impact than DG. Now they're talking about clear cutting 100 or so acres to provide much needed athletic field space for youth sports. i guess the 8-10yr old boys lacrosse and 5-7yr old girls feild hockey can't practice at one of the 20 schools in the town. I'm done venting, sorry. I've got a new "in" to the town parks & rec. Chairman.

Another area possible is Moheagn Park in Norwich, CT. Existing open space is used for picnic areas, small beach/pond, and small zoo area. Huge amounts of harwood uncleared land though.

S sjfoop · Post by **S sjfoop** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:26 pm

What's the deal with Kettletown State Park? 605 acres. Any nefa members live in southbury ct?

http://www.ct.gov/Dep/cwp/view.asp?a=27 ... v_GID=1650

NEFA DISCussion

New course locations suggestions

New course locations suggestions

Re: New course locations suggestions

into the void...

Rock House Reservation

Re: Rock House Reservation

Mansfield Hollow

Callahan!!!!