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I will be trying to make it this time. I got my car fixed finally. Was a nightmare.
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Free a time slot every week and you can free yourself to do great and different things.

Like helping build a disc golf course.
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See some of you in a few hours.
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I should be there by 11. :mrgreen:
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Sunday was an awesome workday. We had six: Dennis Parslow, Joel Brown, Rick Belhumeur, Dave Madmax Hickson, John Hollows, and me. And we kicked ass, rough cutting Hole 12 (maybe Hole 12).

Six more holes to rough cut. I'd like to thank all the people who got us back on track by saying they'd be there.

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Where's Milton? Milton where have you been? What are your plans? What's your phone number?

jason@marshallstreetdiscgolf.com

I got an idea. Let's make a disc golf course.
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Here I am!

Iv'e been lurking, keeping up on things....

It just seems like I've been busy every Sunday...

I should be there for most of the day this Sunday, but I will definitely be there for the meeting at 10a.m. This will be important, and i plan on coming prepared...

I have also gotten some interest from a few more local businesses who would like to sponsor baskets... way cool!!!

Jason: ill shoot you an email with all my contact info....

see ya'll Sunday!!!
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So Roger of the Webster Fish & Game just called and left a message that he's got at least two guys willing to work Sunday for "4 or 5 hours." I talked to Roger and told him we need help, with the entire project. I'll call him back and see what's up with the meeting on Sunday.

Personally, I'd rather chainsaw. But I do want to learn how much land on the other side of the river we can use.

Oh yeah, we don't know where Holes 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 are going yet.
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Today Belhumeur and I went to figure out the rest of the holes, talk to Roger and Tim, Webster Fish and Game guys, and walked the boundary with Tim. Dennis Parslow and I were frustrated with the limited space remaining for the last few holes, but Tim showed us what we can use on the other side of the river, which opened up a lot of space.

I think I have the design for the rest of the course, subject to approval by my cohorts. I think you'll like it. There's a straight 500 foot downhill hole. After the last hole we made (12), thirteen's tees moves along that ridge to the right, and throws back to the big opening near the road we've been taking to work on these holes. That's 13, two fairways, maybe 220 feet. Then you turn and walk toward the clubhouse and kind of parallel to the road to get to 14's tee. Then 14 goes down that natural gulley/truck road about 500 feet. Completely straight with the tee up high, and the pin behind what is now Hole 11 (formerly Hump Hole 10). Only a few small to medium sized trees have to come down to make it a pretty wide fairway. Downhill and straight.

We'll make two holes tomorrow, 13 and 14. Talked to the Webster guys and two of them will be there. I'm driving Joel and Rick. Milt and Parslow and Hickson and Hollows have sort of committed.

We'll make two holes, and we'll look at the rest.

Who ELSE is coming?
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I'll be there Jay.
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I am in. Hopeful that Ceasar Palache will be with me. Maybe others I can wrangle early morning. Might not be ten sharp for me, but I will make it.
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Seven of us: Belhumeur, Hickson, Hollows, Parslow, me, and Tim and Roger from the Webster Fish and Game, two guys who belong to the heart and soul of that fine establishment. Tim bought Rick and me a beer, a 16-ounce Rolling Rock draft. Way better than Rolling Rock out of a bottle.

We finished a hole and a half, worked a good three hours out of the almost four we were there. Belhumeur worked about six during his three and a half hours of work.

Cut out the beginning of the 500 or so downhill Hole 14 shot, a now clearly visible and delectable fairway. I want to cut down five medium-sized trees to widen the beginning of the fairway. The Fish and Game guys said they'd cut 'em down during the week.

It's all happening at an accelerated rate, with many would-be attendees building up enough guilt to start showing up. We could conceivably have Sunday workdays of 10 or more and blow out the last few holes, start seriously talking about raising the six grand for baskets, and getting the Economos crew in there with their Bobcat to make the tees.

Thoughts become things, but not without bee stings. Dennis Parslow got multiply stung by, I think, yellow jackets (maybe whiteheads). He had some nice welts on his inner upper arm, one of the most painful spots to get a tatoo.

Ha ha.

It unfolds. Come help. Next Sunday at 10.
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Truck is loaded. See some of you guys in an hour or so.
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It's the times eighteen part that throws people

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I would like to finish the rough cutting of the fairways during the next four Sundays. Holes 15, 16, 17 and 18 remain. Then we'll need two more weeks to go back, pole saw high and annoying branches and clean up the fairways we cleared months ago.

And baskets being the thing that starts play, we beg the frisbee gods in earnest for the unavoidable $6,000 that Chainstars wind up costing when you buy 18. You get the 19th free, and no, they won't give you the 18th free instead.

There is a point where thoughts do become things. It's when a lot of the work is done and you can actually see the thing happening. In this case a disc golf course at the Webster Fish & Game. Who's in?

I ask because I can't do it alone. I won't raise the money. Marshall Street will sponsor a hole. I won't get tarps for the piles. I'll burn a few of the piles this winter. I'll never ever maintain it once it's in. Unless there's poison ivy. I kill poison ivy. It's one of the things I kill.

I will finish the rough cut and do the follow-up. I want to be there when the baskets are planted and the tee areas are determined.

But you know what? We could use a few more bodies. I'll resist the urge to slip into whiny bitch mode cause there also is stepping back and admitting to yourself you spend your Sunday mornings with God and your friends and safety meetings. And it's okay.

But C'mon. You know how big it is for us for even one of you to drag and pile brush for a couple hours? Um, hooj.

I'll come clean with my own motivations here, too, just to keep it honest. First off, I want to finish this course so I can start designing and building the next course.

Yes, the next course looms. But, like the Pozzy Putting Game, it doesn't count until you finish the course you're building.

My other motivation for doing any of this is that I feel like Rambo when the chainsaw's running and I want more of you to see my sweaty massive Rambo chainsaw guns. Quite a relief finally admitting that.

Wow it's good to not be a politician, and to know that not knowing that a split infinitive is okay in English is ridiculous.

Eventually the words run out and I've run out. Tell me what I have to say to get you there and I'll phkn say it. You want a million dollars it's always good to begin negotiations with a clear stand. Cause everything's negotiable if you like Rolling Rock from the tap, which is way better than you think.

And workdays are way better than you think. Who was there? Three of us. Belhumeur got there and started working at 8:30, an hour and a half before Joel and I arrived with the equipment.

Three old guys finishing 14 and getting more done in half a day than 20 of you never-been-to-a-workday disc golfing gerblesexuals.

How long we been at it? Since before the beginning of time. And I started 10 years before that with Billy Mac and Brent. Then life changed and other courses got closer...sniff.

Just by the way let's throw another big truth in here it'll be quick building other courses free public or otherwise is not dum if you have a pay to play course. It's dum to think the opposite.

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Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah? We don't need any pansy-ass help building the Webster course. We're fine, perfectly fine. Old, but not quite to the point of decrepitude. We'll just keep dragging, slowly dragging, these downed and cut branches out of our fairway to be.

Like holding on to the blade of a slow moving windmill -- you have to hold on, while continuously changing your grip. We're good. Good. We're good.
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Who's up for Hole 15 today? I'll be there at 10 with brush hog and chainsaws. Let's see what we can get done.
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We finished Hole 15, the four of us. John Hollows, Michael Johnson, Tim of the Webster Fish & Game and me.

Holes 16, 17 & 18 remain. The layout is really coming along. Once we finish rough-cutting these holes, we can go back and start again on Hole 1 with the polesaw, and setting up corny object targets just so we can play the fairways. We'll also have to brush hog again and pick up new sticks and branches that have fallen.

So we're shooting for free object play to begin by December. It's unfolding nicely with support growing within the host establishment.
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Ooh, we're almost to the fun part, throwing frisbees!
Got 4 so far for tomorrow. One of em is this crazy guy with a chainsaw...
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It's ridiculous, but we went TODAY, too. John Hollows and I. The rough cut on Hole 16 is finished -- finally an easy hole compared to all the rest. And a beautiful hole, along the river.

John brush hogged Hole 17 most of the time, and brush hogged 16.

Tomorrow we can finish Hole 17 and start on Hole 18. Sounds like we have some workday ringers showing up. 10 a.m.

Manic swings, chainsaws, and perfect fall weather. Things that make a New England disc golf course.

It's great being American, and living in the greatest country ever. It's especially great to be able to choose your own religion.

And worship where and how you want.
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Jason Southwick wrote:
It's great being American, and living in the greatest country ever. It's especially great to be able to choose your own religion.

And worship where and how you want.


This is wisdom.

Sounds like some awesome work is being done over there!
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Steve Dakai, Cory Mort, Jeff Burrows, John Hollows and I finished Hole 17 yesterday, and walked/played the course. There's more work to do on the holes we've "finished," now that more branches have fallen and a whole bunch of prickers grew back, but most of that will be easy and quick.

Closing in on talking about funding baskets.
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My swollen knee says that we need the "back pack blower gang" to make a pass through there. Ray? Emma? Brent?
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We're going Sunday. I'm picking up Joel at 9:30 and we'll be there by 10. To rip up Hole 18. It's kind of a momentous day. The course isn't by a long shot finished, but this will mark the finishing of the first rough cut.

We realized Hole 1 was too wet, so decided to angle it toward the tee of Hole 2, and keep it this side of the river. And otherwise make the river always out of bounds. It works on this course.

We've come a long way with this course to be. A lot of fun, sweaty work. We tremendously improved the land, even if you don't play disc golf.

All the people who helped even a little helped so much. The other course I was talking about building is still just talk. Courses have to be brought to fruition after so much effort, with so much momentum building. This is the course we're building now.

And none of it counts at all if you don't get the course in the ground, with good tees and good tee signs.

It's like getting laid. Full penetration or it doesn't count.

So who's coming Sunday? Who's into full penetration?
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I love full penetration. See you there at 10. Where are you parking?
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An all star cast showed up today. Me, Belhumeur, Joel Brown and Dennis Parslow. We ripped Hole 18 a fairway, and figured it out. Finished it as far as cutting. Nice hyzer to inside the shed, an idea I find hard to part with, though everyone sane tells me it's stoopid.

Met the President Jamie, and his cohort Jim. They praised our work. They looked at Hole 18 before we began, around 9:30. I told them my awkwardness, that the original guys who did a lot of work jumped overboard, and now new people are taking it to fruiting, and that I was one of these new weird people. Introductions around. Somewhere it slipped into the conversation. They said they're visiting Pyramids tomorrow to see what it's all about.

And then I asked them if we could clean up and cut down these little trees. And they said. "Do whatEVER you want." And they praised us some more.

Then after we were finished, at around 12:30 p.m., we went inside the fine establishment which is the Webster Fish & Game, which is a bar that's open in the afternoon, with $1.50 16-oz Rolling Rock drafts. I know many of us rejected the Rolling Rock squat bottle taste shortly after our mid-20s, but you need to try it on tap for $1.50 for 16 ounces.

Anyway, Jamie the President was enjoying a beer at the bar and I had another question about the shed (inside of which I still want Basket 18; abuse me) which was a pretext for getting him to come out and see what we had done, cause what we had done was Hole 18 and right out back of the bar, and he came out and pretty much said awesome, beautiful, and he couldn't believe how much work we had accomplished in three hours.

And then we walked back to the bar and as he passed me inside he patted me on the back of the shoulder. Pat pat. And "You guys are doing a great job."

That all pushed a big button that said let's go this week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. We can consult different calendars if we need more days. Really different calendars, where you squeeze in a couple days between say, Thursday and Friday.

We could go alternate universe and all the [bleep] who talk about coming but don't actually come (ever, or anymore) could actually show up for a workday. The guys who show up all the time will have to talk with a gy lisp, to follow the alternate universe theme.

Which day we go back? Wednesday? Regular Wednesday? Or sneaky other calendar Wednesday? Which the Klingons call "glukbok bokabok," known by the infidels as Toooosday.
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John Hollows and I have made a secret pact to show up tomorrow, Tuesday, November 8, 2001, at 10 a.m. Tomorrow Mr. Gas-Powered Polesaw transforms Hole 3, and beyond.

Because of the wet on the left side, we're angling Hole 2 (previous Hole 1), diagonal toward Tee 3, more rightward and more dry, away from the left side of the land with its river puddles. We're also thinking about angling Hole 3 in the same direction, but need to brush hog and clear the entire area (again) to figure out the best placement for the tee and pin.

Hole 2 will be a breeze. One medium sized tree needs to come down, and it'll be a straight shot with a little heizer landing before the creek, with the creek OB. By clearing wide of Hole 18 on Sunday, and previously clearing the old Hole 1, there's almost nothing to do. Hole 3 will be more of a chore.

Tomorrow at 10, or have a job or be a fg.
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Wish I could have made any of these workdays.

I have a sick chainsaw at my disposal. I must admit there is something cool about ripping through some trees with that thing!!
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It looks like I can make it there for a stint on Sunday.... Will I be alone?
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Rick Mahoney wrote:It looks like I can make it there for a stint on Sunday.... Will I be alone?


I am quoting myself. Since I am talking to myself, I am redirecting myself to Newton Hill today.
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Listen to this. I'm picking up Gregg Hosfeld at the Worcester Airport in less than an hour. I've bribed him into coming to Webster next Tuesday or Wednesday or maybe both. It's a pretty big secret but he's one of the best and most knowledgeable designers in the world. No one chases windmills like he does. But he's going to see the course with all its unfinishedness and notyetgreatness and notquitethereness and it's likely he'll have some usable insight. Plus we're going to proceed where we left off, the final cut of Hole 2, having now finished the rough cut of all 18.

We'll keep you posted.
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Jason Southwick wrote:Listen to this. I'm picking up Gregg Hosfeld at the Worcester Airport in less than an hour. I've bribed him into coming to Webster next Tuesday or Wednesday or maybe both. It's a pretty big secret but he's one of the best and most knowledgeable designers in the world. No one chases windmills like he does. But he's going to see the course with all its unfinishedness and notyetgreatness and notquitethereness and it's likely he'll have some usable insight. Plus we're going to proceed where we left off, the final cut of Hole 2, having now finished the rough cut of all 18.

We'll keep you posted.


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