Tolland @ Crane April 1st blaaaaaahh 10am Matchups

[Eric Maurer]

The league would prefer us to do it before the 1st. I would trust doing it on the 1st if I trusted you and pHill to be able to work out a venue for finals in advance.

We'll see you on the 1st. We can work out plans with PHILL involving both outcomes of this match.

[Pete Charron]

much love brotha! It is definitive! The 18th it is.. Check the title! Itchin' to get y'all out there for your second go round...


Now.. We gotta secure an ill spread for yalms...

[Eric Maurer]

You can post the 18th all you want but nothing is definitive.

[Daniel Mack]

Woah woah woah woah......

Pete, I checked with the captain today anxious to get the date down regardless of what it was and heard that you were good with either the 25th or 1st, you were checking with your team as to what was best for you guys, and he was just waiting on the confirmation text back from you. It seems like you interpreted it like I was saying we were WAITING on you, and that you were the reason for the whole big hold up or something. Wasn't like that, thought you guys were good with the date.

I agree that the home team should have the right to set the date if a comprimise can't be made, been saying that all along. The remedy for this is one simple line of text on the rules thread that clearly states that and we'd be all set. 90% of the time it's not a problem but sometimes teams are going to have conflicting needs as far as dates, this isn't the last time it's ever going to happen.

Sorry if you guys think TT is team drama king and sorry that we're so difficult to schedule with. Still looking forward to this matchup regardless of the date. Hopefully you'll get over it and have a fun day throwin plastic with us when the time comes.

[Les Sinnock]

Yeah, I believe this has to be mutual between the teams. One team doesn't just get to pick the date. It's between the two capt's. The rest is just talk.

[Pete Charron]

Eric how nice of you to join this forum...

[Les Sinnock]

Maybe you guys should chat on the phone instead of exchanging barbs on this thread

[Pete Charron]

lol barbin' away!

Eric told me via text that the 18th wasn't going to happen yesterday. What I don't get is why the tiebreaker goes to you in this case?

I mean the 1st works for me, I really don't care. I just want to get this workin' without totally kowtowing to you punks

On the phone in late Feb I had said to Eric that late March should work. Then we took the 25th off the board on the 1st of march and started looking for the 18th.. That left the 11th, 18th, or 1st on the table. Had you made an effort to get on it earlier the 4th would have been available as well.

I just don't feel like I need to bend our backs in order to do the 1st. It benefits the league to do it earlier, it's more appealing to us as the home team, your squad has secured a spot in the finals. Eyyyyyy wuuusssddaaa big deaaallll???

Realistically, why is the 18th no good? Is there a reason other than being the day after St Patty's? I know alto or whatever is gonna have trouble making it but I mean any other reasons?

[Brett Antosik]

lol

im done here

see you guys at crane whenever

[Les Sinnock]

It's not my place to say this, but I believe we have a player healing from surgery and others were not available that day as well (not a throwing arm issue). I think we tried to let you know the best way we could that the earlier dates were not going to work for us, but you guys kept pressing for the 18th. We're really sorry that your team has gotten all stressed out about the dates - really. Given that there is a distinct rivallry about to be created by our two teams, I think we wanted to make sure that we put our best foot forward here. Is that really so hard to understand ? I think the rest of the league will wait for the outcome and there will still be a couple of weeks before finals. There is a new thread started for disc-ussions on the finals location. people can start their angst there instead of on this thread. Can we move forward with the 1st? I think both teams can make it. We are very much looking forward to this matchup and it is still just a couple of weeks away. Should be one heck of a match.

[Eric Maurer]

The 18th is an issue for us. The 25th is an issue for you. We're both agreeing to the 1st. I don't see what the problem is anymore. Let's do this

[Pete Charron]

blah.

unnecessary stress. this sucks.

[Pete Charron]

The 18th is an issue for us. The 25th is an issue for you. We're both agreeing to the 1st. I don't see what the problem is anymore. Let's do this

It just sucks cuz now that you've delayed for so long that it looks that simple... When realistically it could have been the 4th,11th,18th, 25th, or 1st..

Your lack of presence on this thread put us in a position where these were our only options...

I do know that during our phone convo I said that late March should work.. I won't hide that at all cuz it's true.. But I don't think that excuses your lack of presence on here.

And even in admitting that late March would work for us back in late Feb. that was pretty much bypassing two dates that worked for us in the 4th and 11th... hence it should look more like this:

TT dates that don't work...

4, 11, 18..

dates that don't work for crane.. 25th..

We'll be short a few guys on the 1st and I know we'll be missing one of our studs on the 18th too.. Again, it's all gravy with me, but based on principle I think we should play on the 18th..

Also it breaks my heart to shut out our co-captain kretschy who has been a lot of the heart and soul of our team and who can't make the 1st

if you can find it in your hearts to play the 18th i think that's the date it needs to be played on..

if you wanna be cold-blooded, unrelenting, baby-killers... then whatever.. karma will get ya

[Daniel Mack]

Dude, you act like we've been intentionally trying to be difficult for the sake of being difficult. We had just played a challenge on the second to last weekend of the month. One of our players was awaiting to hear about if they would need emergency galbladder surgery or some sh!t, another player with a fracture vertibrae in his neck that missed the last match, and a couple other players that had to work those weekends. Taking all that into consideration we were like "hrmm...why not just play a date later in the month, why the rush?" That's all dude. Sorry if we seem like we're being unreasonable d!cks or something but it's really not the case.

I realize it's frustrating, I argued months ago about the fact that the home team should have the final say in the rare situations where a date can't be decided upon. I really do wish there WAS a rule in place and you could make us play on the 18th, or any other date for that matter.

You think this is bad, wait until people start realizing in a couple weeks when there's a 3-4 way tie for the last finals spots that there's no tiebreaker rule past the head-2-head scenario and that some teams haven't even played each other. There's only 5 matches a year, and more than double that amount in teams. Math will show you that more often than not, there will be teams tied for spots that will not have played each other during the regular season. Then what?

Truth is, our frustrations here would not exist if there were just a couple of easy bottom-line rules in place. Which is nobody's fault, but should be remember by all those involved in this debockle when the time comes to tweak the rules and improve upon the TC rules/guidelines. End of the day it's all love, we're gunna play this challenge and it's gunna be exciting and everyone's gunna have a good time. I think....

Let's everyone just chill out a little bit, take a step back and figure it out.

Amirite?

[Pete Charron]

nah you're right man... it's all gravy i hope nobody thinks it's getting like crazy blown outta context. just bein' real.. chattin and stuff... having disagreements so it ain't as smooth as it should be..

Y'all shoulda been more forward with those issues. I did know that kylie was injured and recovering.. That i knew, the other things, no idea. And it does seem like you only choose the dates that is most advantageous for you guys.

The whole maple hill challenge thing.. Being super picky on the location to tip the scales in your favor or in your words to be less of an underdog..

Pushin' the date with noho..

I wouldn't think you're being difficult to be difficult I'm thinking you're being difficult to get the best possible situation for your team. And that's nothing other than good work by your capitan... BUT.. There's gotta be some give sometime right?

You can't expect to win every battle on the forum.. You guys should show up on the 18th and duke it out. That's when my team wants to play and I really think it's totally fair to expect you guys to show up and compete on that date.. Hence the title of da thread.

I do like that it's still all love.. I mean I got nothing against it and a bunch of you keep saying to chill out, trust me plenty chill over here, it's just like hey ya can't have it your way every time.

[Jeff laterreur]

the one thing i hate about the NEFA forum is that you can't give your words tone of voice. people can't tell if your mad, happy,....ect

if only NEFA had a webcam chat group

[Daniel Mack]

Pete you're right too and I think we're on the same page. I don't dispute any of your points and I appreciate your realness homie, they're valid points. Our bad if those other things were not as forward as they could have been, at the time it just probably didn't seem like playing a later date would be much of a prob. We'll take ownership of that though, maybe we could have been in better communication in hindsight. No one is taking any serious offense over here tho, you're a good captain and I def appreciate you're ability to put things in perspective intelligently and move forward without personal attacks and irrelevance. As for the date, I dunno man I look forward to playing whenever we finally do but it's not my call. I do think that the day after St. Pattys day is probably the worst day of the year in America, for waking up and doing anything productive. But whatev, not my call just my opinion. Regardless of whatever, don't beat yourself or stress about any of it, life's too short.

[Pete Charron]

4 words...

HAIR

OF

THE

DOG

[zak brown]

Vent much?...

[Brett Antosik]

lol i did my blacking out in new haven yesterday. dont need to do that again

[Pete Charron]

vent much? this, that and the other such, embarrassed check me blush. Whoa, what a rush, another argument graced with poetic touch, TT a team of drunken lush

St. Patty's day keeping ya away? well, i say let's play! Shucks, better get on your knees and pray, Crane boasts a full skill array, an attack that'll hit ya back, doubles teams stacked leaving Dmack saying.. WHATTT THEEE FAAACCCKKKK?

[Pete Charron]

i hear ya on that brett.. I think I did myself in well enough this weekend... Next weekend.. OoooOOOooOOoOOoooof. too much haha..

[Brett Antosik]

there was a lot of untagging on facebook

so i hate to ask again, but is it the 18th now or are we still undecided...? im confused

[Daniel Mack]

vent much? this, that and the other such, embarrassed check me blush. Whoa, what a rush, another argument graced with poetic touch, TT a team of drunken lush

St. Patty's day keeping ya away? well, i say let's play! Shucks, better get on your knees and pray, Crane boasts a full skill array, an attack that'll hit ya back, doubles teams stacked leaving Dmack saying.. WHATTT THEEE FAAACCCKKKK?

Aaahhhh!

[Les Sinnock]

Actually, I don't think St. Patty's is an issue. Most of our team doesn't even drink even though we have two brewers in our lineup.
Just a point of clarification. We didn't push the date with Noho, they pushed with us.
And, yes, we did try to get a neutral course that suited us both with Maple. I think they call that gamesmanship. I believe that is legal in team challenge when deciding neutral. We took them down fair and square, all whining aside.
Looking forward to the 1st. I don't think anyone on our side has any hard feelings despite the boards banter. We just needed time for our team to heal and the 25th was off the table. Hoping this will be epic ! Cheers !

[Dave Hickson]

It's to bad TT only has a 13 man roster. We raised the roster limit to make scheduling a little easier.

[Kelly Conroy]

Actually, I don't think St. Patty's is an issue. Most of our team doesn't even drink even though we have two brewers in our lineup.
Just a point of clarification. We didn't push the date with Noho, they pushed with us.And, yes, we did try to get a neutral course that suited us both with Maple. I think they call that gamesmanship. I believe that is legal in team challenge when deciding neutral. We took them down fair and square, all whining aside.
Looking forward to the 1st. I don't think anyone on our side has any hard feelings despite the boards banter. We just needed time for our team to heal and the 25th was off the table. Hoping this will be epic ! Cheers !

I think what he meant was, that you guys pushed the issue of meeting before February, which wasn't on our schedule. Les if you think that "pushing" a date into our actual scheduled date is "pushing", then you have a misguided view of things. The only date that we "pushed" away was Feb 4th, which was the Crane Hill Ice Bowl. Don't try to make us look like the bad guy here, just like I am not trying to make you look like the bad guy. It's not like we "pushed" the date to where we had an advantage because a lot of our upper guys weren't there, so....

[Pete Charron]

Looking forward to the 1st.

nice, you playing fool's fest?

i'm lookin' forward to this sunday when we compete in a team challenge against TT.

it's a he says she says now i reckon... but i started the thread which gives me ULTIMATE POWER!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

sorry, i get a little carried away...

[Tim Carter]

TT continues to try to defend a season full of passive aggressive, and disappointingly successful, manipulation. Yes, its all within the rules, but the spirit? Sucks. The idea that playing maple a crane hill was neutral is a joke. You stalled and stalled until you got yur way, and maple would rather play than engage in message board cold war. Sound familiar?

[Pete Charron]

TT continues to try to defend a season full of passive aggressive, and disappointingly successful, manipulation. Yes, its all within the rules, but the spirit? Sucks. The idea that playing maple a crane hill was neutral is a joke. You stalled and stalled until you got yur way, and maple would rather play than engage in message board cold war. Sound familiar?

Masters of the filibuster...