Team Tolland DG

[Steven Dakai]

I have no clue, but I just asked Todd about the B pool and he confirmed that its the Finals that determine who moves up. If you beat Crane you do get to help pick the location of finals with Pleasant Hill.

[Daniel Mack]

What's the finals date again?

[David Gipson]

Not Trolling just input here.

You sure Steve? This is from the rules thread....

• The bottom two teams in the A Pool after the regular season get relegated to the B Pool next year.

• The top two teams in the B Pool move up to the A Pool next year.

I interpret this as regular season standings, not after the finals. Maybe I'm wrong tho.

These rules are hard to find. Above is what I found and thought the same. Now we are at the end of the season and we are all finding out it's not the case. It's finals that matter. So you could go 3-2 and make A pool over a 5-0 or 4-1 team. Doesn't make much sense.
Can some one send me a PM with the rules link that says Finals decides movement to the A pool.
Again Sorry for invading your team thread. No Disrespect. I'm just wanting to know.

[Steven Dakai]

Ask your captain, he was part of the discussion on the rule in the captain's thread. I had to ask about the rule myself,there was a lot discussed.

It went like this. Top regular season team is rewarded by getting to pick finals locale. But, just like any league, the playoffs determine the champion. So the top two finals teams are moving up.

Choose well...

[Todd Lapham]

Tolland, what are your plans for deciding finals if you beat Crane?

Are you going to compromise with them and go with Maple Hill?

Are you going to play for it, and if so what course are you going to pick if you win?

We need to know so we can figure out the two bottom halves finals location.

Thanks.

[Daniel Mack]

Probably a better question for their team Todd. I suggested Wick as a great venue for the event but early response is they're not havin it. We will probably just have to end up playing where they decide but Eric is the one to answer for us in the end.

[Todd Lapham]

Not Trolling just input here.

You sure Steve? This is from the rules thread....

• The bottom two teams in the A Pool after the regular season get relegated to the B Pool next year.

• The top two teams in the B Pool move up to the A Pool next year.

I interpret this as regular season standings, not after the finals. Maybe I'm wrong tho.

These rules are hard to find. Above is what I found and thought the same. Now we are at the end of the season and we are all finding out it's not the case. It's finals that matter. So you could go 3-2 and make A pool over a 5-0 or 4-1 team. Doesn't make much sense.

It's right in the first post of the rules/guidelines, infact you just quoted it! Every captain knew this as it was discussed and decided before the season started, like everything else. Much greater opportunities for strength of schedule differences in the B Pool with so many more teams.

Top half make finals. Top 2 that day move up. The giants were 9-7 and beat the Patriots who were 12-3, regular season gets you to the playoffs, you gotta win in the playoffs to win a championship.

[Todd Lapham]

Probably a better question for their team Todd. I suggested Wick as a great venue for the event but early response is they're not havin it. We will probably just have to end up playing where they decide but Eric is the one to answer for us in the end.

I already have their answer. Woodland Valley if you lose and they proposed MH if you win, waiting on an answer from you guys.

[Daniel Mack]

Todd the above quoted doesn't specify how B Pool teams move up. If it was specifically stated then it was either burried somewhere in the rules thread, or it was discussed in the captains thread which only captains have access to. Why are you even bringing that up here?

As for our choice of finals locale, just for arguments sake if you really need an answer and don't understand what "ask our captain" means, then just figure that we're pick Wickham and that's it. Does that make you happy? Now what because they don't want to play there and we don't want to play anywhere else.....So now what?

[Kelly Conroy]

Ahem...move finals to the 15th and play @ Hylands...ahem


Excuse me... I have a tickle in my throat.

[Keith Hughes]

Ahem...move finals to the 15th and play @ Hylands...ahem


Excuse me... I have a tickle in my throat.

[Pete Charron]

Todd the above quoted doesn't specify how B Pool teams move up. If it was specifically stated then it was either burried somewhere in the rules thread, or it was discussed in the captains thread which only captains have access to. Why are you even bringing that up here?

As for our choice of finals locale, just for arguments sake if you really need an answer and don't understand what "ask our captain" means, then just figure that we're pick Wickham and that's it. Does that make you happy? Now what because they don't want to play there and we don't want to play anywhere else.....So now what?

yo are you serious?

stop with the bs. tt
dmack i like yo steez cuz you were at least well spoken and chill during our quarrel there but to adopt the above approach makes me sick to my stomach..

did you not learn anything from our quarrel or are you guys just hellp-bent on being the most obstinate mof*ckas in TC.

seriously...

Todd, please.. TT should legit pay some sort of consequences for being the most difficult group ever..

here's the strategy..


Dmack talks like sin on the forum making tons of claims and some very good points and some not good ones as well.. Anytime anyone calls bs he hides behind the "talk to our captain" who by the way has no presence on this forum..

Vote for maple hill for finals or somewhere other than wickham and have some respect. seriously.

SERIOUSLY.

[Todd Lapham]

Todd the above quoted doesn't specify how B Pool teams move up. If it was specifically stated then it was either burried somewhere in the rules thread, or it was discussed in the captains thread which only captains have access to. Why are you even bringing that up here?

As for our choice of finals locale, just for arguments sake if you really need an answer and don't understand what "ask our captain" means, then just figure that we're pick Wickham and that's it. Does that make you happy? Now what because they don't want to play there and we don't want to play anywhere else.....So now what?

No kidding, it doesn't specify regular season either, but yet you all jumped to the conclusion that's what it was. I didn't bring anything up, I simply answered a question.

I asked in the captains thread what your plan was a week ago and got no answer, figured I should try here.

I did "ask your captain" and he didn't respond, so I'm posting on the TT thread where I might actually get an answer. No need to be a smartass, especially when I've done the things you suggest...

It's funny I posted here and got a response from your captain within an hour!

Do you not understand what "PHill would compromise at Maple Hill" means?

[Jeff laterreur]

wick would be our pick if we won but becasue of the chance of a tie we will have to pick a place that is in the middle of the two top teams.

i vote berre just because its fun i havn't played it in a long time and its in the middle

Phill votes for Mhill, most of the mass people play maple once a week so advantage them but we have a strong team and we shoot good there.

both are in my top 5 so im fine with whatever

We should start asking dodge if it would be cool if we play for free at Maple. i'm sure he will let us if we say please

[Dave Jackson]

wick would be our pick if we won but becasue of the chance of a tie we will have to pick a place that is in the middle of the two top teams.

i vote berre just because its fun i havn't played it in a long time and its in the middle

Phill votes for Mhill, most of the mass people play maple once a week so advantage them but we have a strong team and we shoot good there.

both are in my top 5 so im fine with whatever

We should start asking dodge if it would be cool if we play for free at Maple. i'm sure he will let us if we say please

Alto, you are a jewel

I really hope Crane takes you guys out. Then pack yer' bags and head north to be crushed, not finish in the top two and have another nice year in the same pool as Team Maple Hill, again

For the record, the B pool is cool and wouldn't be the same without Team Tolland.

[Daniel Mack]

Am I missing something? Todd, you came and asked these questions.....

Tolland, what are your plans for deciding finals if you beat Crane?

Are you going to compromise with them and go with Maple Hill?

Are you going to play for it, and if so what course are you going to pick if you win?

We need to know so we can figure out the two bottom halves finals location.

Thanks.

To which I politely replied.....

Probably a better question for their team Todd. I suggested Wick as a great venue for the event but early response is they're not havin it. We will probably just have to end up playing where they decide but Eric is the one to answer for us in the end.

But I'm confused by this.....

Not Trolling just input here.

You sure Steve? This is from the rules thread....

• The bottom two teams in the A Pool after the regular season get relegated to the B Pool next year.

• The top two teams in the B Pool move up to the A Pool next year.

I interpret this as regular season standings, not after the finals. Maybe I'm wrong tho.

These rules are hard to find. Above is what I found and thought the same. Now we are at the end of the season and we are all finding out it's not the case. It's finals that matter. So you could go 3-2 and make A pool over a 5-0 or 4-1 team. Doesn't make much sense.

It's right in the first post of the rules/guidelines, infact you just quoted it! Every captain knew this as it was discussed and decided before the season started, like everything else. Much greater opportunities for strength of schedule differences in the B Pool with so many more teams.

Top half make finals. Top 2 that day move up. The giants were 9-7 and beat the Patriots who were 12-3, regular season gets you to the playoffs, you gotta win in the playoffs to win a championship.

You call me a smartass but you snapped at me and answered a question from like forever ago, on some other thread, out of the blue for no reason. WTF was that? I asked in the appropriate rules thread, and for no reason all, you come here and start babbling about the Pats and Giants. And call ME a smartass?

I dunno I'm still confused.

My aggrivation and reply to that are a product of the fact that I brought up this exact scenario weeks ago and instead a chimming in with a clear cut answer as the guy who runs this thing, you said "figure it out." "Play for it." "There's no need for a rule for a tiebreaker."

To quote Walter Sobchak "This isn't vietnam, this is bowling, there are rules!" Well this is DG not bowling, but it's still sports. In sports you need rules and tiebreakers, you just do. But you disagree, okay whever.

I thought I was being very clear with the "we won't play anywhere is but Wickham" as hypothetical..... Me saying "it's our captains call" is not me hiding behind or from anything, I want to be clear that my thoughts here are MY opinions and ideas, and may or may not reflect what our team thinks.

So anyways, I'm sorry, I probably shouldn't communicate here when I'm aggrivated. Text is really bad at transmitting tone correctly. I'm gunna take a break for a while, I don't care where we play even if it's in Maine, it's gunna be fine no matter what. But I will say that, it's funny how no one says NOTHIN about them not wanting to play at Wick, but we're the scapegoat crybabys of the league if we were to decide we didn't much care to play at MH. It's all just funny to me.

[Todd Lion]

Considering there's no way we can win the B-division, our say in where we would play really doesn't come into play. We'd probably choose Wickham. Pleasant Hill will choose that course in ME if they're the clear winners (and they can actually win it outright depending on the results of our Crane Match).

If they're fine with a compromise at Maple, I say we take it.

[Les Sinnock]

It amazes me how much people jumped into TT bashing, when they had no business even meddling in our affairs and all stems from our trying to schedule the match with Crane hill. Most people don't understand that we had a legitimate reason for scheduling with Crane late in the month and Crane wasn't all that flexible either (until recently). It seems that because we beat a lot of players this season, that these very people came to all of these other threads that they had no business being on, just to say nasty things about us and generally get everyone all hyped up to hate us. really people ? WTF. Can't we just all get along ? Are we not allowed to disagree with growing sentiment ? It seems that everyone else out there feels the need to decide for us everything including dates, places, etc., prior to our captains talking and deciding, and if we then don't go along with the popular sentiment, then we are losers, drama queens, and a whole host of other sheet. Give it a rest people. Find something better to do with your time than roasting the hell out of us. Because in the end, we are decent people, and just out to throw some plastic. And please stay off our thread of you are not on this team !

[Todd Lapham]

I answered David Gibsons question with my response. It wasn't from forever ago, it was a few hours before I posted.

Agreed tone doesn't come across well on the board, also sorry if I took it the wrong way as this stuff is very frustration sometimes.

For the record I'm all for another tie breaker, just can't be implemented mid season. Only teams with a high point differential would vote yes, high strength of schedule would vote yes, etc.

I don't think that posting questions only TT can answer on this thread is bad, I tried the captains thread and received no response. They are questions that need to be answered as they are holding up the rest of the league.

[Todd Lapham]

Considering there's no way we can win the B-division, our say in where we would play really doesn't come into play. We'd probably choose Wickham. Pleasant Hill will choose that course in ME if they're the clear winners (and they can actually win it outright depending on the results of our Crane Match).

If they're fine with a compromise at Maple, I say we take it.

This is the type of response I was expecting. Must be a Todd thing...

[Patrick Barnett]

Eric Maurer was not injured during the posting of this post.

[Brett Antosik]

stop the bs tt lol youre making us look bad dmack and youre getting everyone upset

i could care less where finals are. i'm not gonna have any idea where i am anyways

[Jeff laterreur]

i could care less where finals are. i'm not gonna have any idea where i am anyways

um i might need a new partner for the finals

[Daniel Mack]

I personally don't care either, as long as it's not somewhere that people will be playing blind is probably the only thing I'd have an issue with....if it's a tie. If not, then it's still a win cuz we're gunna go party in Maine + throw plastic all day....They earned it. Maybe see about some rooms for those that don't wanna drive home after partying.....like you Brett!

So I guess after much debate...options are.....lookin like...

PHill wins but we party in Maine!
We flip a coin or play it off prior....meh...
We play finals at Maple Hill again.....mmm not bad
We play somewhere else.....mmm k where? sofar not Wick not WT

Speaketh up now if you have a preference or any other ideas not mentioned.

[Les Sinnock]

I'm with you DMack. I guess I'm not too far from the idea of playing at MH other than that it favors a lot of players that are located right there but play for teams in other towns, which in fact is a disadvantage to us, since none of us lives near there nor plays it regularly. I'm lucky if I get there once a year.
Seems as though PHill is inflexible towards the idea of playing at any other course if we tie with them. I mean we have thrown out a bunch of other course names and all have been shot down so far. I personally think that Alto's suggestion of Barre was good, because it favors no one in particular. Maybe tully as another option. Who are the 4 teams that we would playoff - PHill, Crane, Us, and ???? TBD. Barre or Tully would be good choices. The fourth team may have an advantage in that players on their team (s) may live and play in that area regularly and I think we should try to keep things as neutral as possible going into finals. Other options are to play courses that none of us have been to yet, like in NH or ME. I'll bet some of us have played some Maine courses, but few of us at best. Other ideas ?

[jim tufts]

apparently I'm not supposed to say that yet.

[Jason Toothy]

Seems as though PHill is inflexible towards the idea of playing at any other course if we tie with them. I mean we have thrown out a bunch of other course names and all have been shot down so far.

Maybe tully as another option.

We shot down those courses because they are all right in your backyard. Keep in mind, this is a compromise course that we are supposed to be picking, not a course you know like the back of your hand. We like the idea of Tully, but we have to see what happens tomorrow, because if Dam Team knocks off WT, Tully would be off the table as Dam Team would make finals and that is one of their home courses. I think Tully would actually be a pretty fair neutral course. Let's start working together instead of holding the league hostage for the sake of trying to secure every fickle advantage we can. We're cool with Tully or Maple... IF YOU GUYS BEAT CRANE!!!

[Daniel Mack]

Seems as though PHill is inflexible towards the idea of playing at any other course if we tie with them. I mean we have thrown out a bunch of other course names and all have been shot down so far.

Maybe tully as another option.

We shot down those courses because they are all right in your backyard. Keep in mind, this is a compromise course that we are supposed to be picking, not a course you know like the back of your hand.

So let's pick MH which is a course that all of the other teams know like the back of their hand. Let's give 4 teams a local advantage instead of 1 team. Not seeing the logic there, me thinks there's more behind it. Either way though, not arguing, I won't care if we play MH. And the idea about upper and lower B pool having one big party on Marshall Street still seems pretty cool. Just know that you're not pulling the wool over anyone's eyes, Toothy.

[Jason Toothy]

So... you don't like Tully as an option?

[jim tufts]

Just know that you're not pulling the wool over anyone's eyes, Toothy.

Where in the shiit do you even come up with this garbage?