2011-12 Schedule, Results & Standings

[Matt DeAngelis]

Still say there is no reason all 8 teams cant play, 3 rounds in 1 day is no big deal especially with days getting longer and its match play singles, that flies by.

Not on a course with 90 people it won't! Logstics for an 8 team bracket tournament and three rounds would leave little margin for delays. Plus, this is all organized by the same people playing in the event. The less work they need to do the better.

[Charlie Holmgren]

I would say that a format change for Finals could/should definitely be considered at this point. I'm not saying no matchplay. I'm all about matchplay for finals. Its a matchplay league! I'm saying the amount of teams playing can easily be changed without waiting till next year.

Lets make alot of people happier and have one hell of a party at the same time to celebrate another crazy season in this awesome league!

Hylands and Charlton woods 8 teams.

[Kory Roy]

The number of players on the course would be significantly cut after the first and second rds.

[Eric Kevorkian]

I would say that a format change for Finals could/should definitely be considered at this point. I'm not saying no matchplay. I'm all about matchplay for finals. Its a matchplay league! I'm saying the amount of teams playing can easily be changed without waiting till next year.

Lets make alot of people happier and have one hell of a party at the same time to celebrate another crazy season in this awesome league!

Hylands and Charlton woods 8 teams.

Sounds nice

[Todd Lapham]

I would say that a format change for Finals could/should definitely be considered at this point. I'm not saying no matchplay. I'm all about matchplay for finals. Its a matchplay league! I'm saying the amount of teams playing can easily be changed without waiting till next year.

Lets make alot of people happier and have one hell of a party at the same time to celebrate another crazy season in this awesome league!

Hylands and Charlton woods 8 teams.

Sounds nice

Make everyone happy? Impossible in this league!

I'm not sure I follow. How would this work?

[Chris Martin]

How about 9 hole matches. 4 teams on each course, so maximum 80 people on one course at one time. Play it like standard singles (match play) from TC with captains throwing players out. Higher ranked team is deemed the home team.

1 v 8
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

Then the 4 winning teams that won first round go to one course for the final two rounds, and the first round losers go to the other. Could have a finals and a consolation at each final four so that 1-8 could be decided. Just an idea, but it seems like it would give all teams a chance to win and it benefits the teams with the better records in the regular season.

[Charlie Holmgren]

I was thinking something similar to what Chris is saying. I was recently involved in an invitational match play event where each team ranked their players beforehand and the schedule was already set. We played 10 hole matches (thats how many holes were on the course). However, 10 hole matches were good and they went quick. It was plenty of golf to turn your game around or vice versa.

We could have each team have a preset ranking for each player and then just set up a schedule pretty much like Chris's above.
i.e. Team 1 vs. Team 8: Player 1 plays Player 1, Player 2 plays Player 2, Player 3 plays Player 3 etc.

Straight up team vs. team. No trickery.

[Steve Solbo]

The number of players on the course would be significantly cut after the first and second rds.

Yeah and if we played only top 4 alot of people would get to play all day. As opposed to having people sit b/c they arent that high on their roster and the team your playing against only brought 10, then you cut teams out of even playing, so some players will travel 3 hours to not play at all???

I am done sitting people all funk day.

[Charlie Holmgren]

Invalid point.

If we played 4 teams on each course everyone would play all day.

[Marvino Manalo]

How long is finals 1day or 2days? If it's 2 days lets do the Steve B. thing format. If it's 1day I rather do "Battle Royal" best scores and best doubles scores.

[Joseph Mason Proud, III]

Listen, this all needs to get resolved in the Captains thread. Granted, all the details should have already been hammered out a while ago, but it is what it is. So, Captains and Todd - let's pound some nails.

[Jason Toothy]

pHill over Maple Hill 16-4. pHill goes undefeated in the b-Pool.

[Charlie Holmgren]

Fair enough. Todd or Jeff Dubs please grant me some access to that wonderful place known as "The Captains Thread".

I don't really think my team has a defined captain at the moment being that we kind of alternate that role at each challenge and I seem to be chiming in quite often so...


Someones gotta represent Captain L in that forum.

[Todd Lapham]

Finals location should be picked before the season begins, like the NFL. With a 5 game schedule it's almost impossible to tell who is the top seed.

Agreed and it will. Only problem is it will eventually be someone's home course, which is undoubtedly going to cause controversy.

[Matt Buono]

Fair enough. Todd or Jeff Dubs please grant me some access to that wonderful place known as "The Captains Thread".

I don't really think my team has a defined captain at the moment being that we kind of alternate that role at each challenge and I seem to be chiming in quite often so...


Someones gotta represent Captain L in that forum.

Same for me and cran

[Charlie Holmgren]

Those of you who are cool enough to partake in the Captains thread...can you tell us if CL and Cran are getting any representation in there?

I honestly dont know who is voting for my team.

Are you guys discussing stuff at the moment?
Is a new thread started about fixing finals?

Huh? Huh? Is it? Huh?

[Derek Libby]

Chucky,
Determining finals format isn't about what's right for everyone...
There is no room behind the curtain for Cran and CL.
This is a job only the real captains can handle.
They don't need you two mucking up their plans.

[Steve Solbo]

Invalid point.

If we played 4 teams on each course everyone would play all day.

Coordinating 2 rounds to go down, courses 12 miles apart to finish 3 rounds? That's a alot of coordination Todd can't be at both places.

[John Tserpes]

Just wondering if seed 1 bring 16 people and then seed 4 brings only 10 for the matchplay finals, does that mean that seed 1 will have to sit 6 people?

If not, can someone explain how finals will go down?

[jim tufts]

I'm here for the gangbang

[Charlie Holmgren]

Chucky,
Determining finals format isn't about what's right for everyone...
There is no room behind the curtain for Cran and CL.
This is a job only the real captains can handle.
They don't need you two mucking up their plans.

Nice DLibbZ!

Invalid point.

If we played 4 teams on each course everyone would play all day.

Coordinating 2 rounds to go down, courses 12 miles apart to finish 3 rounds? That's a alot of coordination Todd can't be at both places.

He doesn't have to be at both places. We're all adults (sort of). There plenty of us that are TD's as well. I'm pretty sure a few can volunteer to get things done at each end.

Plenty of time to come up with a solid schedule to make it work.

And eventually everyone would end up at Hylands to party!

[jim tufts]

[Sean Healy]

I'm here for the gangbang

[Clayton Davidson]

These are all things decided before the season starts. If you or your captains had problems you should have stated them then. I would say don't plan anything ahead of time anymore Todd. It seems like it is just a waste of your time and all the captains that put in their .02 at the begining of the year to figure anything out, if it is just going to be questioned and scrutinized at the end of the year each year. Keep up the good work Todd, it is truly a thankless job.

[Eric Kevorkian]

Clay, I think a big part of the problem was that very few people took the time to actually look at the structural changes of Finals when they were originally posted in the beginning of the year.

It's only all coming to a head now because teams have been playing their last couple matches, and the "buzz" around Finals and who attends is starting to heat up.

[Charlie Holmgren]

Claydog...Todd has been thanked by me numerous times. Nothing is being scrutinized at all man. Stop your little "thank you" talk mumbo jumbo.

We are trying to be productive here.

[Steve Solbo]

Claydog...Todd has been thanked by me numerous times. Nothing is being scrutinized at all man. Stop your little "thank you" talk mumbo jumbo.

We are trying to be productive here.

It can work that's for sure, but it's gonna take coordination in a quick amount of time, we may have ties for 1st and 4th, alot of this stuff is moot unless certain things happen during the last few challenges.

Personally, no other league switches it's rules at the end of the season, why should we? It's not Todd's fault that captains didn't take the time to actually read the rules and set up for finals before the season. I think the main reason is that teams are not where they thought they'd be and now, it's time to try and get into the top 4 ...

But if Todd is willing to talk we should try and make it work, if we can make it work, we will.

[Matt Buono]

Cran is willing to be flexible. Early date. Flip a coin it's all good. It's really not that big of a deal. We will compete wherever when ever, with whom ever and win. Not sure if there is a fair way to determine the tie breakers, without some sort of playoff, which there is no time for.

[Bobby Direnzo]

Cran is willing to be flexible. Early date. Flip a coin it's all good. It's really not that big of a deal. We will compete wherever when ever, with whom ever and win. Not sure if there is a fair way to determine the tie breakers, without some sort of playoff, which there is no time for.

Im sure you are!!

[Titan Bariloni]

We're all adults (sort of). There plenty of us that are TD's as well. I'm pretty sure a few can volunteer to get things done at each end.