Rocs vs. Buzz

LeftyhasRights · Post by **LeftyhasRights** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:16 pm

X buzz and kc roc. like em both buzz feels better in the hand kc roc pretty stable when crispy new. xbuzz holds that like so nice. I really dont know what im talking about.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:39 am

Charlie Holmgren wrote:Warriors and Elements.

2nd and element X's

but i still say CHAMPION COBRA best all time

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:32 am

Leftyhasrights wrote:X buzz and kc roc. like em both buzz feels better in the hand kc roc pretty stable when crispy new. xbuzz holds that like so nice. I really dont know what im talking about.

David Hoey · Post by **David Hoey** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:17 pm

I was a buzzz thrower for a long time... but I eventually fell into the loving arms of the Roc. It's nice to have one mold that hits every line.

3 DX, one new, one beat, one in the middle
1 Kc Pro
1 heavy glow for ripping

like someone said, it depends on what kind of game you're playing and what you're looking for. It's a debate that will never be solved.

Nick Connell · Post by **Nick Connell** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:22 pm

Bobby D wrote:
Leftyhasrights wrote:X buzz and kc roc. like em both buzz feels better in the hand kc roc pretty stable when crispy new. xbuzz holds that like so nice. I really dont know what im talking about.

2nd.

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:23 pm

FOR ALL YOU BUZZZ TOSSERS

I have an FLX BUZZZ that I don't throw...just sits in my trunk with my extra discs. Not new, but not beat. Anyone interested in it?

Mike Clark · Post by **Mike Clark** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:18 pm

Don't know where you are coming from man.[/quote]

I come from a land completely of pro shops.

My dog did find my DX Roc to be quite delicious however.

James_Beaulieu · Post by **James_Beaulieu** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:37 pm

I've had an esp buzz for about a year now, I use it every round and frequently. It has the same flight characteristics now as it did the day I purchased it: straight as an arrow. I use it for shots from 100 to 200 feet or long down hill shots. I would never get rid of it, I know exactly what it's going to do every time I throw it.

Adam Dodge · Post by **Adam Dodge** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:25 pm

Buzzz all day. Best disc ever made. The only time I throw a roc is when Im trying to roll one to the boat ramp across the pond at Tully. I havent got one to roll more than 5 feet yet but I'll keep trying.

Dave Jackson · Post by **Dave Jackson** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:12 pm

Got 4 or 5 rocs. KC's, Ontarios and Classics.
BUT a buzzz is really good on those down hill really straight shots like #8 at pyramids or #13 at Maple hill (not the short one). Also # 18 at Buff.

David Gipson · Post by **David Gipson** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:05 am

Used to throw the Buzz but it got to be unpredictable for me. One htrow would go nice and straight next would fade out to the right. My Rocs do what I want them to. They stay on the lines i put them on and I find them to be more comfy in the Hand for me ROC ALL DAY

Matt Heenan · Post by **Matt Heenan** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:08 pm

Rocs still ahead baby.

Ben Parker · Post by **Ben Parker** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:55 pm

heen32 wrote:Rocs still ahead baby.

That is because some people are stupid. :lol:

Shawn Mullen · Post by **Shawn Mullen** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:17 pm

The roc is 3 different discs. Which roc are we refering to? Rancho, San Marino, Ontario. All different discs.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:38 pm

Mullen wrote:The roc is 3 different discs. Which roc are we refering to? Rancho, San Marino, Ontario. All different discs.

Flat top is what i throw............... Rancho's from the late 90's :wink:

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:50 pm

CaptainAnhyzer wrote:
Mullen wrote:The roc is 3 different discs. Which roc are we refering to? Rancho, San Marino, Ontario. All different discs.

Flat top is what i throw............... Rancho's from the late 90's

Rancho is not flat. As a matter of fact, I hope that winky face is sarcasm, the Ranchos have sort of a prounounced dome, sorta like a QSent, makes them more stable.

Ontario, San Marino are much, much flatter.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:03 pm

Steve-O wrote:
CaptainAnhyzer wrote:
Mullen wrote:The roc is 3 different discs. Which roc are we refering to? Rancho, San Marino, Ontario. All different discs.

Flat top is what i throw............... Rancho's from the late 90's

Rancho is not flat. As a matter of fact, I hope that winky face is sarcasm, the Ranchos have sort of a prounounced dome, sorta like a QSent, makes them more stable.

Ontario, San Marino are much, much flatter.

I assumed that the term "Rancho" applies to where it was molded(Rancho Cucamonga, CA). Those words are clearly visible on both Rocs that i have and they are flat as a board. I got one in a player pack in 1998 and the other one(a Glo) i found a year or two later. These are original Rocs, not even close to what is called "flat top" these days.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:09 pm

I picked up a Star Roc when i was at Pyramids and was told it flew like the old school flat top Rocs....................

YEA RIGHT !!!

Sean Franchi · Post by **Sean Franchi** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:20 pm

DX Roc is so very predictable. so much so that you'll hit fewer trees and thus they last a while.
champion classic roc for shorter shots.
buzz especially in that flx crap is a crapshoot each throw
i personaly think the wasp mirrors the roc more than the buzz

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:56 am

My two flat top Rocs are just like this one, aside from the stamp.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370231296693&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Mike Dussault · Post by **Mike Dussault** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:58 am

8x rocs are hard to come by...

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:06 am

Mine are also slightly "seasoned".............

Dave White · Post by **Dave White** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:58 pm

9x KC Pro Roc
2002 CE Usdgc Roc
Are my favorites, but they are worth close to $100 or more, gets risky on holes you can lose them on.
Dave

David Gipson · Post by **David Gipson** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:46 am

DWhite wrote:9x KC Pro Roc
2002 CE Usdgc Roc
Are my favorites, but they are worth close to $100 or more, gets risky on holes you can lose them on.
Dave

2nd this have one of each in the bag but don't throw em near water or in winter.

Some Rancho Rocs are flat as pancakes some have a dome. i Feel the ontario has a rounded edge and feels a bit domeyer than Rschos the sanny a bit less rounded than the ontario but about the same dome IMO with the ones I have. My Champ Rachos and KCs have same dome as my champ Sanny just bit differnet lips.

Bård Soleng · Post by **Bård Soleng** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:09 am

Easiest question to answer EVER!!!!!

The BUZZZ, preferably in Z or ESP, is the better midrange. The buzzz last 20 times longer than a roc. It also flys in a more predictable pattern because of the modified wasp mold and its durability.

I threw rocs for 5 years. I always had 5 of them in my bag that were at different stages of beat. If I didn't closely follow how much beat they became I would get angry when my straight one flipped over etc.

Now I have 2 buzzzs. One that is a little stable and one that flipps a little over.

I can't say enough about how the Buzzz is so dominant over the roc........

:lol:

Paul Sullivan · Post by **Paul Sullivan** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:28 am

Last year while playing a round at Cranbury(thursday League) a player in my group asked me why I was throwing a "Roc" so much. I told him that was the only mid range disc I had thrown for no special reason at all. He said why don't you give the "Buzz" a try. I did and have never thrown another "Roc" since. Two reasons- durability and predictability of flight right off the shelf.

Thanx again Bard for the sound advice

Sean Curcio · Post by **Sean Curcio** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:11 am

franch wrote:i personaly think the wasp mirrors the roc more than the buzz

I agree... I don't throw a buzz cuz I like my star coyote, but as for comparison I think the Wasp is a better match to the Roc. The wasp is what I throw now because I like the consistancy of the ESP plastic. I did love my 2 DX Rocs but after hitting a few trees i never knew what it was going to do. If innova came out with a STAR version of the DX Roc I'd buy one in a sec.

Dave Meltzer · Post by **Dave Meltzer** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:22 am

I throw both a Classic Roc as well as several of the gay pink buzzes. Love the buzzes as I can see them from a long way out.

Bill Dunne · Post by **Bill Dunne** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:41 am

MEL wrote:I throw both a Classic Roc as well as several of the gay pink buzzes. Love the buzzes as I can see them from a long way out.

You don't throw them far enough to worry about that. :twisted:

matt jackson · Post by **matt jackson** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:26 pm

Bill Dunne wrote:
MEL wrote:I throw both a Classic Roc as well as several of the gay pink buzzes. Love the buzzes as I can see them from a long way out.

You don't throw them far enough to worry about that.

Haa..little salvo on the Brooklyn side.?? You gunna take that crap from some slease from CT Mel????????

When one of my shots hits a tree, not an uncommon experience, i can't usually blame the plastic.

Anyway, I throw Roc's ,cause i know you're all dying to know, the famous ZZ Ontario stamp as well as a medium beat DX
from about 4 years ago.

Tried the Buzz Esp , I think, don't recall, and found it more overstable then my Rocs and went back to my innova plastic for a more consistent line.

However , now that Bard has straightened me out, i'm going to make the move to the buzz again , w a bit more determination this time, and move up to pro open.

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