Whippet, Drone, Gator... Preffered Overstable Mids?

[Steve Solbo]

kev how many rounds do you and i play together yet you have never thrown my zone??? i offer for you to throw it all the time!

anyways. you know where i stand with it. I love the zone. now that it is warmer i will throw it on hole 11 ww at borderland. i would say that is pretty good d for that disc.

You can throw it on 11, but will you reach it?

[Matt Stroika]

I like you thinking about 'forehand approaches'. Under utilized (in the sport) IMO. For the vast majority of people, considering there is significantly less spin put on a disc when thrown FH opposed to BH*, understand that unless the disc is VERY over stable you'll initially get some "S-curve" throwing them...which may NOT be what you want. Sooooo, I go with the most over stable one you can find that feels good (yes, "feel" is wicked important IMO regarding less-than-full-throttle throws).

Karl
* Hopefully no one argues this fact, as they'll get trounced...just live with it and accept it.

I would suggest talking to Bunce about forehand approaches. Kid flicks a Roc perfectly straight for a long ways on his approaches. I was amazed.

[Karl Molitoris]

I would suggest talking to Bunce about forehand approaches. Kid flicks a Roc perfectly straight for a long ways on his approaches. I was amazed.

I can talk to him about FH approaches (...Bunce is a nice guy), but what am I suppose to talk to him about? That FH approaches are 'good'? I think - due to our frequent uses of them - we'd have a VERY short argument about this topic...as we'd both agree they're good (and then we'd talk about whatever) .
Maybe I'm missing your point.

Karl

[Matt Stroika]

Not necessarily directed at you Karl. You were talking about spin and S-curves. Bunce may not even know how he does it, but he sure can throw accurate and straight approaches with his Roc. Maybe I should talk to him?

[Shawn Mullen]

He uses DX rocs and CFR Gators for those approaches.

[Karl Molitoris]

Ah, we can all learn from him and a lot of other people!

Some people have an inate ability to - without even trying - place almost as much spin on their FHs as their BHs (Stokely and Witman are two that I've known...and I'm sure there are a few others), but these are rare birds. For most people, it's a 1:1.5 ratio. And this is the reason that BHs tend to be a "better choice" for tunnel shots (where you need a very straight shot for a long ways). It's all about spin = stability son (said in my best Foghorn Leghorn).

Unfortunately (for the hard workers who truly want to get to be the best but never will) a lot of it has to do with the natural ability one brings to the table. And work as hard as they can,they'll still never do what some people can do all the time.

That's sports at the highest level(s)...suckith that it may .

Karl

[Mark Valis]

I gotta agree with Solbo the San Marino Q-Sent is where it is at ! Gotta be the old mold not that new junk

[John DeBois]

I gotta agree with Solbo the San Marino Q-Sent is where it is at ! Gotta be the old mold not that new junk

Yea the new sentinels are garbage. Same with the new firebirds.

[David Hoey]

Throwing Forehand Produces More Touque. Fact.

[David Hoey]

I gotta agree with Solbo the San Marino Q-Sent is where it is at ! Gotta be the old mold not that new junk

Yea the new sentinels are garbage. Same with the new firebirds.

you can add the new XD's to that list as well... classic rocs got retooled at some point a while back and those were way different as well.

[Pete Nevius]

Am I the only person that likes the Lat 64 Pain?

[Greenleaf Garrison]

Am I the only person that likes the Lat 64 Pain?

i was just about to say that. While not quite as overstable or fast as a whippet or drone, it is a good, reliable, overstable midrange. However, the gold color in the brown leaves sucks the big one

[Tom Fisher]

kev how many rounds do you and i play together yet you have never thrown my zone??? i offer for you to throw it all the time!

anyways. you know where i stand with it. I love the zone. now that it is warmer i will throw it on hole 11 ww at borderland. i would say that is pretty good d for that disc.

You can throw it on 11, but will you reach it?

yup. sure can. but def could not if there is to much of a head wind.

[Ven Vardin]

For dependable left hooks I like the Gold Latitude XXX. It flies farther than the Lightning #2 Hyzer I use for shorter left hooks from RHBH. Both are indestructible, which I need as I hit a lot of trees still. I loved the Innova Whippet I had until it broke. I'll have to check out a Champion Glow Whippet someday.

[Dave Hickson]

I just picked up a 172 star gator x. That [bleep] is $. By far the most dependable mid range i have ever thrown. The thing is a wicked pig. Now I gotta get the star gator L for a little more D as I can only get about 250 off the tee with a anhieser flick befor it fades out.

[Jeff Wiechowski]

My Whippet decided to take a break laast night........... center court spectating at Wimbleton

[Lucas Brewer]

i have been throwing the vector for the last few months.. for me it just isent the right disc.. im not a huge fan of the grip on it and for me it just is not working but i did give it a try. i will say that it handles windy conditions very well and is consitant on not turning over.

i will be trying the drone and possible the zone and seeing which one of those i like.. i cant rely on a firebird for doing all my overstable work for shorter shots

[Mike Murphy]

Just lost my champ gator. Will probably get another but I'm looking for something with the same flight but a bit faster, any suggestions?

[Dave Hickson]

Maybe the opto pain or a star gator L. I heard they stopped making the star gator L and they do not make it in champion yet.

[Dave Hickson]

A little off the subject but the archon is $

[Kevin Fanning]

Bought a zone and love it right now. Took maybe 4 throws to break in, holds a beautiful hyzer line. Although I have to say I just played a round with a dude who makes a great case for the hornet...

[Greg Aucoin]

Word to the Zone, Kevin. Great disc for forehand approaches when you dial it in, and don't try to overthrow it. Carrying the hornet as well would seem like a great idea, it's a much faster disc that you'd use for a different range of shots.

[Keith Morin]

The zone is a great forehand disc, I've pulled off some seemingly impossible shots with it.

[Karl Molitoris]

Actually a Sharpshooter # 2 is VERY overstable right out of the box. Unfortunately, the plastic is also very soft (and thus it becomes ever-increasingly more under stable as time / tree hits happens).

Karl

[Jaxon Sheehy]

anyone ever find that the mids with that "roc" and "wasp" style rims are a little harder to be accurate with than say a "buzz" or "gator" style rim? anyone even know what i'm talking about?

sometimes i feel like maybe i'm missing out on a lot of discs because i don't like those rims... they're a little too steep...

i was so excited to get a wasp, and when i finally did i was bummed because of that rim.

thinking about going out and getting a champ gator- as my DX gator is all beat up and not as stable as it should be anymore. used to LOVE that thing.

[Kevin Fanning]

Sounds like you just prefer a low profile grip. I think what it comes down to is what is most comfortable in your hand.
What kind of shots did you buy the wasp for?.... I don't think the gator and the wasp are all too similar, but I'd take that with a grain of salt because I've never thrown a gator. Can anyone elaborate on this?

[Steve Solbo]

Gator is smaller diameter and deeper lipped disc.

[Charlie Holmgren]

Evolution Warrior.

[Lucas Brewer]

just ordered a special edition z drone off of DD gonna try it out tomorrow and see how it works and ill post the results

first impressions are it feels right in my hand but well see how it does coming out of it

[Jaxon Sheehy]

Sounds like you just prefer a low profile grip. I think what it comes down to is what is most comfortable in your hand.
What kind of shots did you buy the wasp for?.... I don't think the gator and the wasp are all too similar, but I'd take that with a grain of salt because I've never thrown a gator. Can anyone elaborate on this?

i got it for a tourney disc- and it might be a hornet... hmm, i'll have to check. i just wanted a very stable mid range. i'm not sure on the exact shot selection. mostly when there's something like water or OB right and i want to still keep that slight hyzer line and throw over it but come back in bounds. anything with less risk i'll just grab the buzzz without thinking.