2009-10 "B" Pool Finals - ** Results Posted **

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Gary/Mass wrote:
sully from tully wrote:How about $50-75 for a nice trophy that can be engraved and passed around every year. $ 10 for a case of Kleenexs and use the rest for CTP's :)


This never happens.

Buff has won the cup twice and I've never seen it in my home. It never actually gets passed around.


Well I think thats an issue you take up with your captain. I think a B-pool trophy is a great idea and passing it around is not that much of an issue. Find out who has it, say hey you've had it long enough, let me hang onto it for a bit. Done.
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LaForce wrote:No payouts for finishing atop the B-Pools finals. That was announced at the beginning of the season.


Lots of things were annouced at the beginning of the season that were immediately forgotton/ignored.
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Cheef wrote:
LaForce wrote:No payouts for finishing atop the B-Pools finals. That was announced at the beginning of the season.


Lots of things were annouced at the beginning of the season that were immediately forgotton/ignored.


erased as well..

we could always show the Disc Golf world the B pool doesn't care about $$$$$$$$ and donate it to Crane Hill for some course improvements...

just a thought......
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Cheef wrote:
Well I think thats an issue you take up with your captain. I think a B-pool trophy is a great idea and passing it around is not that much of an issue. Find out who has it, say hey you've had it long enough, let me hang onto it for a bit. Done.


Not to mention anything that is passed around and kept by multiple people will not be taken care of like it should be.

With teams at 15 players strong now, you're telling me that each member of your team will get to hold the trophy for the 3.46 weeks that will equal one years time until the trophy gets passed to the next years champion?

You think a captain wants the responsibility of making sure every 3.46 weeks the trophy gets passed?

Sometimes a great idea in theory, loses something in it practical implementation.

Gummy Bear Ice Cream was a great idea Ben & Jerry had too,..until somebody broke a tooth on a frozen gummy bear.
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Post by Mike Murphy »

We're talking about passing a trophy around every few weeks. Its really not that big of a deal but is still something I'm sure a lot of players, especiall players in the B pool who rarely see trophies, would like to do.

I'm not saying pester the captain about it unless it becomes an issue.

Whats hard about this, "Hey Greg, can you bring the trophy to league next week and pass it off to someone else? Thanks" ?

If you dont want to hold onto the trophy, pass it on to the next guy.
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Cheef wrote:
Whats hard about this, "Hey Greg, can you bring the trophy to league next week and pass it off to someone else? Thanks" ?
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Nothing actually is hard about it, but it won't work.

So when he shows up and says he forgot it, you are going to what,..tell him he has to go back and get it? When you get it the following week, do you forfeit the week of holding the trophy or does the next person now only get it for 2.46 weeks? It's not fair to penalize the next person so what will happen is this. The players that are 12-15 in line to hold the trophy will never see it.

Cheef, we have a difference of opinion. I'm telling you what my personal experience being in a two time cup holding team has been. Aside from the photo on my fridge with me standing next to the trophy with me team,..I've never seen the thing. And I guarantee you if you guys hold the cup all of your players will not get the cup for their 3.46 weeks.

And what happens when the trophy gets damaged an people are upset that we have to take money out of the following years entrance fees to repair it?

Spend the money how you guys want. I really don't care, I just think the trophy is a idea that will not be implemented the way it's created.

My personal feelings agree with putting up a CTP on each hole, let eveybody compete for the money, then chop up the money between your team.
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Gary,

Just becuase something didn't work in your experience doesn't mean it wont work.

You are really over thinking this. If someone forgets it, they forget it. You're breaking it down my exact time. Its a fricken trophy to look at say, " hey ya know what, at least we won B pool".

Cost of making it or repair? We have Jimbo make a trophy for what $50? I'll pay it outta my g-darn pocket if I have to.

The things people are opposed to on here is getting silly.
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Post by Titan Bariloni »

Gary is right...

Next year if we have a "B" pool and it is different from a whole league A/b combined maybe then think about it..

passing it around is up to the team....

Cheef maybe a good idea but we don't know yet how the day is to be setup so lets not get to deep into this
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Post by Mike Murphy »

One thing I've noticed with this league is that the "wait til next year" argument is use a lot then never fulfilled. The same problems/concerns get partially addressed then put on the backburner until "next year".

I'm going to talk to Jimbo about getting a trophy made. If you dont want to hold on to it, then dont. If you dont want to compete for it and have something to show for your efforts during the year, then by all means don't worry about it.
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Go ahead get it done if you want....it will look good sitting up at FlatRock

Cheef apparently if ya want something done "Just do it"
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I want nothing to do with a trophy....


Just put it to CTPs.. That's the most "fair"... Like Burtt said, we did it Barre and it gave everyone a shot. No one can complain about that, and if they do, get a life.

Or if people want to be really "FAIR" about the $, let's just split all the money amongst everyone that's there. How Obamian.
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Cash CTP's on every hole, that will solve everything!! In dubz it will have to be split with your partner.

Done and DONE!

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Bear Dunn wrote:I want nothing to do with a trophy....


Just put it to CTPs.. That's the most "fair"... Like Burtt said, we did it Barre and it gave everyone a shot. No one can complain about that, and if they do, get a life.

Or if people want to be really "FAIR" about the $, let's just split all the money amongst everyone that's there. How Obamian.


The trophy is coming outta my pocket, so if you dont want it, then dont worry about it. It wont effect any of the B pool money.
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Cheef wrote:
Bear Dunn wrote:I want nothing to do with a trophy....


Just put it to CTPs.. That's the most "fair"... Like Burtt said, we did it Barre and it gave everyone a shot. No one can complain about that, and if they do, get a life.

Or if people want to be really "FAIR" about the $, let's just split all the money amongst everyone that's there. How Obamian.


The trophy is coming outta my pocket, so if you dont want it, then dont worry about it. It wont effect any of the B pool money.


Cheef I'll throw in towards it.
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Tim Griskus wrote:Cash CTP's on every hole, that will solve everything!! In dubz it will have to be split with your partner.

Done and DONE!

Finally!

Captains, ROSTERS?!?!?!


For goodness sake man.

Make it mandatory split between all team members that are there to compete. It's team challenge. Key word is team.

And I would hope that our team would be willing to pool all the money we win and donate it to Highlands Brewery for the sponsorship of a basket supplied by "Team Buff"
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we could always show the Disc Golf world the B pool doesn't care about $$$$$$$$ and donate it to Crane Hill for some course improvements.


That would solve everything as well.
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Gary/Mass wrote:
Tim Griskus wrote:Cash CTP's on every hole, that will solve everything!! In dubz it will have to be split with your partner.

Done and DONE!

Finally!

Captains, ROSTERS?!?!?!


For goodness sake man.

Make it mandatory split between all team members that are there to compete. It's team challenge. Key word is team.

And I would hope that our team would be willing to pool all the money we win and donate it to Highlands Brewery for the sponsorship of a basket supplied by "Team Buff"


I love how all the discussion starts 2 days before the damn challenge where was all the discussion 3 weeks ago?!?!?

Do what you want with whatever you win...I don't care about the MONEY!!! For christ sake can everyone just stop talking about the goddamn money already!!! I'm not making anything mandatory...I'm showing up and playing that's all.

FYI - I am throwing $100 dollars of MY money up towards an ACE POT, if nobody gets an ACE we will have a throw off at the end of the day for it.

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Tim I would just say keep on doing what you are doing to set up the finals for B Pool. You are doing a great job. Dont try to please everyone since it will never happen.I dont see any other captains from the B Pool chiming in on helping you out. Yaskis is the only player who has offered to help out. Where are the other captains to help?

Last year B Pool fianls ran so smooth cause we had 2 captains(Laforce and JD) take care of everything. We had a lunch vendor come in the morning, shaun picked up beers for every one, set up CTPs, and so on. It was a great day of disc golf at Buff.

Anyways good luck to all teams in the B pool finals. I am putting my money on Maple Hill taking it down.
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I am throwing $100 dollars of MY money up towards an ACE POT


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Post by Alan MacLean »

Cheef,

Though I think the trophy is a good idea, it really would be a GREAT idea for next year. First off, this gives Bobka 2 days for design, procurement of materials, and fabrication. And this is the beginning of the weekend and he has family. If he has to do it after the fact, he then has to arrange a way to get it to the winner and who knows where they will be then.

Also why I think it's better for next year is that from what I'm reading I'm under the impression that next year A-B pools are completely different from one-another (at least until after finals for moving up/down). If someone from A pool comes to Crane and wins on Sunday, do they really want a B Pool trophy? I don't know but it just sounds weird.

I think it would be more prestegious to have a "Stanley Cup" style trophy that "legacies" itself year after year within B Pool which can be won by only B Pool teams that battled other B Pool teams all year.

Good idea though.
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Alan MacLean wrote:Cheef,

Though I think the trophy is a good idea, it really would be a GREAT idea for next year. First off, this gives Bobka 2 days for design, procurement of materials, and fabrication. And this is the beginning of the weekend and he has family. If he has to do it after the fact, he then has to arrange a way to get it to the winner and who knows where they will be then.

Also why I think it's better for next year is that from what I'm reading I'm under the impression that next year A-B pools are completely different from one-another (at least until after finals for moving up/down). If someone from A pool comes to Crane and wins on Sunday, do they really want a B Pool trophy? I don't know but it just sounds weird.

I think it would be more prestegious to have a "Stanley Cup" style trophy that "legacies" itself year after year within B Pool which can be won by only B Pool teams that battled other B Pool teams all year.

Good idea though.


I dont expect the trophy done by Sunday since it is a last minute idea, but I dont see how it hurts to have one this year. It'll be around next year too. If an A-Pool team, like Buff, doesnt want a B pool trophy then they should play better and stay in A pool.

I'm not arguing this anymore. I'm getting it made and people can accept it or leave it.
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Lets try to get some good footage of the day so we can make a little DVD

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Post by Alan MacLean »

I dont expect the trophy done by Sunday since it is a last minute idea, but I dont see how it hurts to have one this year. It'll be around next year too. If an A-Pool team, like Buff, doesnt want a B pool trophy then they should play better and stay in A pool.

I'm not arguing this anymore. I'm getting it made and people can accept it or leave it.


Well, I'm not done discussing, and never said it was a bad idea. Two things worthy of consideration.

If an A Pool team wins (obviously a result of cheating) and doesn't want the trophy, you've spent money that could have been spent elsewhere and more wisely b/c 2nd place won't want it. But in reality, when TR wins it, I'd love to see it on display all year at the soon-to-exist Tully Kiosk or Flatrock Kiosk, and thanks for investing to make our home courses look that much more distinguished.

Also, and I should've caught this before my last post. It will be odd in future years to have one single "Stanley Cup" trophy that is up for grabs every year as the winning team (the way I've interpreted 2011's structure) won't have the chance to defend the title as they'll be in A Pool finals the next year.

This will be like winning the championship belt but retiring the next night and relinquishing the title for others to try to grab.
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Post by Paul Sullivan »

you guys are funny, when I sais pass the trophy around I mean't year to year. Was thinking that you could display the trophy were ever at your home course if possible, over the bar at your favorite team watering hole etc etc

enough said!
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sully from tully wrote:you guys are funny, when I said pass the trophy around I meant year to year. Was thinking that you could display the trophy where ever at your home course if possible, over the bar at your favorite team watering hole etc etc

enough said!


Yo Righty,

you can't make generalizations, or leave people to assume things :lol: :lol: :lol:

but yeah each member passing the trophy around is weird....

and a trophy for 7th place is strange as well

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Would you sleep with it CHEEF? better get your fondling of the trophy in before you hand it over to Tully-Rock..will it be Phallic in design?

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Gary/Mass wrote:
Tim Griskus wrote:Cash CTP's on every hole, that will solve everything!! In dubz it will have to be split with your partner.

Done and DONE!

Finally!

Captains, ROSTERS?!?!?!


For goodness sake man.

Make it mandatory split between all team members that are there to compete. It's team challenge. Key word is team.

And I would hope that our team would be willing to pool all the money we win and donate it to Highlands Brewery for the sponsorship of a basket supplied by "Team Buff"




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Cheef wrote:
Alan MacLean wrote:Cheef,

Though I think the trophy is a good idea, it really would be a GREAT idea for next year. First off, this gives Bobka 2 days for design, procurement of materials, and fabrication. And this is the beginning of the weekend and he has family. If he has to do it after the fact, he then has to arrange a way to get it to the winner and who knows where they will be then.

Also why I think it's better for next year is that from what I'm reading I'm under the impression that next year A-B pools are completely different from one-another (at least until after finals for moving up/down). If someone from A pool comes to Crane and wins on Sunday, do they really want a B Pool trophy? I don't know but it just sounds weird.

I think it would be more prestegious to have a "Stanley Cup" style trophy that "legacies" itself year after year within B Pool which can be won by only B Pool teams that battled other B Pool teams all year.

Good idea though.


I dont expect the trophy done by Sunday since it is a last minute idea, but I dont see how it hurts to have one this year. It'll be around next year too. If an A-Pool team, like Buff, doesnt want a B pool trophy then they should play better and stay in A pool.

I'm not arguing this anymore. I'm getting it made and people can accept it or leave it.

A trophy for finishing 9th place sound great. Just do it.
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WT Roster

Gabby
Emilyta
Kaz
Aucoin
Heaton
Cheef
Nicky
Donny
Langner
Shrum
Billymac
AJ Dart
Chauvin
Dakai

Nicky and Shrum are going to split time with Madison so we don't know if we will have a guy/girl or guy/guy matchup. Or how you all want to handle that.
Billymac only played 2 rounds but we would like to see him play,too. I read somewher that you didn't need three rounds for the consolation pool but that may have been an old set of rules.

OK with you guys?
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ok by me. rules are overrated anyway
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Post by Greg Aucoin »

How's this look? Team Captains can make a final decision on where winnings will go (dinner, course fund, individuals keep it, etc.).

CTP's Round 1 - Do we have enough CTP flags to use??

Hole 1 - $20
Hole 2 - $20
Hole 3 - $20
Hole 4 - $20
Hole 5 - $20
Hole 6 - $20
Hole 7 - $20
Hole 8 - $20
Hole 9 - $20
Hole 10 - $20
Hole 11 - $20
Hole 12 - $20
Hole 13 - $20
Hole 14 - $20 and $20 women only CTP
Hole 15 - $20
Hole 16 - $20 2 shot CTP
Hole 17 - $20
Hole 18 - $20

Team with lowest 10+1 score - $20

Total - $400

Round 2 Doubles

Holes 1-18 - $10 each

Team with lowest 5 scores - $20

Total - $200
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