Interesting Poker hands

Shaun LaForce · Post by **Shaun LaForce** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:41 am

with out a doubt i would have pushed all in in your position. knowing you r beat but you had a huge draw. it was just a dumb play on his part. i still cant believe he made that call though. tough loss on your part.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:58 am

Would you guys ever play with someone else's money if the wanted to stake you for a higher game than you usually play??

Shaun LaForce · Post by **Shaun LaForce** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:50 am

i think that would depend on yours/his cut.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:02 am

Loss is on him, winning is 60/40 him.

Mike Dussault · Post by **Mike Dussault** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:34 am

I would.

Shaun LaForce · Post by **Shaun LaForce** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:59 pm

go for it.

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:57 am

Was offered that once.

That question begs a different question that you need to ask yourself.

"If I'm that good, then why do I need someone else to fund me?"

If the money is going 40% to the funder then round numbers say you can play tables that are half as big and walk with the same amount of winnings to fund your bankroll.

I can only see two things happening from a set-up like that.

First, you win and eventually get sick of giving away half you winnings. And since you were winning,..you never needed that funding money in the first place.

Second, you start to lose and with the pressure of losing someone elses money and your funding being stoped,..you start to play different.

If it's a friend offering you the funding, that will make it even tougher.

Not a situation I would want to be in.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:11 am

That's exactly my line of thought Gary. I wouldn't be comfortable playing 10-25, with my money or someone elses at this point with my game. With no cap buyin the game plays really deep and 5k isn't even enough to play in the game with the average stack being 8-10k. It's not a friend it's a regular at Foxwoods if that makes any difference. I would feel terrible if I lost some guy 5k even though he knew that was a legit risk. Plus, I need my knee cap for disc this summer, maybe I'll do it over the winter haha. I'll just stick to the 2-5 or 5-10 if it's a loose/crazy/drunken game.

As for the reason for if someone's that good why do they need someone to stake them. It's a win win for both parties involved IF you're winning. The staker isn't a good player, but wins money off poker by "investing" in who he deems a player that has an edge in a game. Now the player is making money with no risk to himself and has the opportunity to build a significant bankroll without having the added pressure that he is underrolled for a certain level. Now in a vacuum, this is a win/win for both parties involved. But when losing comes into the picture it's just not a situation I'd like to be in. It's amazing how peoples attitudes change from happy go lucky the world is perfect when you win money to I'm going to hire Tonya Harding to bust a knee cap if you have a bad session.

I decided to pass on the deal, which he said is understandable and if I change my mind dont' be shy to speak of this again.

Pete Nevius · Post by **Pete Nevius** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:08 pm

Had a super fun experience at a $1/2 No-Limit table at Foxwoods
this past Saturday - thought I'd share.

4 players limped around to me, on the button with AQ off suit. I
raised to $12 and got 2 callers - one of them a 300 pound football
playerish guy immediately to my right. (I'm 5'7', 150lbs, for reference)

Flop is 8s - Qs - 8d. Both players in front of me check, and as I'm
doing the math to figure the pot-sized bet I was about to make, the
dealer burns a card and turns the 10s. (I was looking down at my
chips and didn't see him do it)

So, of course, I pointed out that I hadn't checked (confirmed by
several other players at the table) - the dealer called over a
supervisor who told the dealer to shuffle the 10s back into the
deck, allow me to act and then continue the hand.

Football player type to my right completely loses his temper and
starts screaming b*lls**t at me (not the dealer, who deserved it)
Turns out he had Ax of spades and would've made the nut flush.
Turn and river were both blanks and I ended up taking down a
nice pot - and in addition earned 30 minutes of muttered
cursing and the evil eye before he finally left.

Anyone ever see anything like that?

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:24 pm

It happens about once every 5 hours.

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:28 am

Pete,

I've seen the adccidentaly exposed card get shuffled back into the deck twice while playing at Foxwoods. However, I never saw a player jump up an openly show that the re-shuffled card had made their hand.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:03 pm

Playing some NL hold em w/dewey and our friend DJ the other day. I get dropped out quick b/c i'm good like that. DJ and Dewey are heads up, dewey's on short stack. Dewey makes the all-in call on pocket 8's, DJ calls with Ac7s.

Dewey has got the pair at this point. Flop falls like this: As Ah 4c
DJ flopped the set, bad news for dewey, now he needs running 8's.

4th street: Ad DJ gets QUAD ACES!! The river was irrelevant. QUAD ACES! Has anyone ever actually seen that in a game before? I always thought it was more of a legend, haha.

Rob Tatro · Post by **Rob Tatro** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:03 pm

I've seen trip Aces trumped by quad Kings before ... ask Gary Cyr about that one :lol:

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:23 pm

Yes I remeber it so painfully since I actually dealt the losing hand myself. I had thoughts of just eating the King that I flipped up for the river card, but that might have been an obvious cover up.
Even Jay Ballard can beat you sometimes even though he has no idea what he was doing.

No friggen reraise pre flop or on the flop after he flops trip K's just flat calls that whole time. The expression on his face when we flipped over our cards after being all in at the turn and he say my trip A's over his trip K's was the same priceless one I see everythime I catch him with his hand in the cookie jar.

And yes I've had Quad Aces 3-4 times!

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:19 pm

Nothing beats the time I was playing with some random kid who folded preflop and he was big blind, there was no raise, he just folded. A few of us called him dumb for folding a free look, but whatever. The hand plays out to the river and I ended up winning with trip dueces with a jack kicker, the three deuces were on the board. The kid who folded his free look flips his cards over after the hand. Wouldn't you know he had the fourth deuce! I must of laughed for a solid five minutes!

Shaun LaForce · Post by **Shaun LaForce** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:35 pm

RobT wrote:I've seen trip Aces trumped by quad Kings before ... ask Gary Cyr about that one

that was brutal. the king peeling off on the river, gary being the first to see the card. the look on his face said it all.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:36 pm

Anyone fold quads here? I have 3d 3c.

Board: 3h 4h 5h 3s 2h

Action: Flop: I bet pot, get two callers. Turn: I check, other two check.
River: I bet pot, get raised and an all in. Action to me I puke and do I really fold quads?? Gotta love Poker Stars.

-Todd

LeftyhasRights · Post by **LeftyhasRights** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:04 am

I would probably not fold quads even though there is a four card open ended straight flush on the board. If they have it... nice hand. Just don't see me foldn it.

Mike Dussault · Post by **Mike Dussault** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:01 am

How much more was the all - in bet? That is a tough call to fold quads, but on line with sooo little time to act, I don't see how you fold that. Consider that it is likely he is holding the Ace high flush if he is quick to go all in, and the Ace gives him the second nuts in this case. How do you lay down quads???

Fred Doot · Post by **Fred Doot** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:22 am

Todd Lapham wrote:Anyone fold quads here? I have 3d 3c.

Board: 3h 4h 5h 3s 2h

Action: Flop: I bet pot, get two callers. Turn: I check, other two check.
River: I bet pot, get raised and an all in. Action to me I puke and do I really fold quads?? Gotta love Poker Stars.

-Todd

Never fold quads. Never.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:23 am

I called because I'm not good at folding and so did the 3rd person (not good) and got shown both ends of the straight flush. This was a tournament and the all in guy had me covered, if this was a cash game I might be able to find a fold. I guess that's what I get for checking the turn :roll:

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:46 am

Does Poker Stars have any type of Bad beat Jackpot. Not that you would have qualified for it because neither player that had a better hand than you had more than one of the hole cards "make" their hand.

I was just curious.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:47 am

Hasn't the "Bad Beat" on Absolute been upgraded to Quad Eights or higher??

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:02 am

Upgrade to Quad 8's?? That dosen't make any sense to me. Quads are Quads. Additionally, I'll argue that getting quad 3's is harder than getting quad Q's, since a pair of 3's in the hole would often be folded to a raise or reraise preflop.

I've seen limits on Full boats like 10's full or better. But never on Quads.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:05 am

It is Quad Eights.

http://www.absolutepoker.com/badbeatpoker/

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:13 am

I think that is terrible. But, I play on a site with no Bad Beat jackpot so I guess it really doesn't matter what I think.

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:56 pm

Won $491.00 playing local cash game last week. Started with a $23 buy in. Never won that much before, rarely play casinos and never play on line, but I do know that cash games are the way to go from now on. Best hand I had all night was an ace high straight...aside from that, all high pair or pairs and a few sets here n there.

:cheers:

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:09 pm

Well done Drew.

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:20 pm

Todd Lapham wrote:Well done Drew.

Thanks Todd....probably won't happen again...never played with those guys before and that's a big advantage. They've been calling me to come back and play again so they can reclaim what they lost :lol:

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:39 pm

I'd def. go, sounds like you smoked those guys.