panthorn @ woodland valley *October 17th* time TBA

[Jonathan Serpliss]

"B" for the BAD@$$ pool cant wait to chop down some trees just to find woodland valley in the thick of maine but we are really going to hate to have to introduce you to the team challenge with a loss. Ill shed a few tears and drink my sorrows away up there though and Im sure Ill get over it

That being said good luck gents can't wait to go

[Kory Roy]

any word on how many will make the trip yet?

[Brian Carter]

Hey Kroy,

About how far is sugarbush from woodland?

[Kory Roy]

probably close to 3-3.5 hours

[Tim Kapushinski]

last i heard we r rolling with 8, gotta check with the captains on that though

[Brian Carter]

probably close to 3-3.5 hours

...holy crap...i'll be there though...

Thanks

[Chris Bolton]

probably close to 3-3.5 hours

...holy crap...i'll be there though...

Thanks

You can stop in NH where we are staying. Cuts for your drive in half on the way to Maine

[Kory Roy]

ill be making the trip to sugarbush aswell so i got the same 3+ hour trip x2

[boomer]

Does the Panthorn GPS even work past Mass? Once you guys wander into the woods.... beware of the Bears! These guys are the real deal and this bear is drooling at the thought of a "B" pool feast of CT lean meat before hibernation.

[Brian Carter]

Does the Panthorn GPS even work past Mass? Once you guys wander into the woods.... beware of the Bears! These guys are the real deal and this bear is drooling at the thought of a "B" pool feast of CT lean meat before hibernation.

I still think Maine is part of Canada and not New England...as far as feasting on lean meat...keep salivating, I might have an idea of some lean meat you can feast on....

[Ryan Brunelle]

Hate to do it, but I have to bail on the challenge. Unfortunately my father in law has been diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer and I need to do the right thing, cut my weekend short after NEFA finals and be home with my wife/family. I'm really sorry and was really looking forward to beating up on the valley boys. Good luck team panthorn...I know you will prevail.

Ryan

[Matt Serpliss]

Hate to do it, but I have to bail on the challenge. Unfortunately my father in law has been diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer and I need to do the right thing, cut my weekend short after NEFA finals and be home with my wife/family. I'm really sorry and was really looking forward to beating up on the valley boys. Good luck team panthorn...I know you will prevail.

Ryan

I'm sorry to hear about your father in law Ryan. Thoughts and prayers are with you my friend. If there is anything you need, don't hesitate to let me know.

[Justin White]

Results?

[Steve Solbo]

Results?

Panthorn Forfeited.

[Matt Heenan]

reasons?

[Kory Roy]

Wv wins by forfeit unfortunatly

[Matt Heenan]

Was there an unfortunate occurence? Or was it something else?

[Steve Solbo]

Panthorn, "unfortunately" couldn't field 8 players, or 50% of their roster.

I call horse hockey, but then again, that's just me. Afterall, we are still in October right NOW. With 2 weekends left.

[Matt Aubin]

Panthorn, "unfortunately" couldn't field 8 players, or 50% of their roster.

I call horse hockey, but then again, that's just me. Afterall, we are still in October right NOW. With 2 weekends left.

I think that you should be the last to talk about not being able to do something.

Yes, we had to forfeit the match. Several of us had family stuff come up on that day. I can safely say I speak for the whole team, we are really disappointed we could not go up and check out their sick course and play a good match. A few of our players did manage to drive up that weekend and ended up getting in a car accident.

[Matt Heenan]

Most of us have families. That's why an agreed date is set ahead of time. If the car accident is the reason for the forfeit then forget my next comment.
If panthorn forfeited because they couldn't get enough guys to make the trip there should be a penalty. They commited to the league and just cost Woodland Valley one of only 5 matches played. I hope the commissioner gets involved because a straight forfeit is BS. In my baseball league if a team forfeits twice in a year they are kicked out. That's a 30 game scheduele.
Glad everyone in the accident is ok and truly hope that unfortunate incident was the reason for the no show.

[Steve Solbo]

Panthorn, "unfortunately" couldn't field 8 players, or 50% of their roster.

I call horse hockey, but then again, that's just me. Afterall, we are still in October right NOW. With 2 weekends left.

I think that you should be the last to talk about not being able to do something.

Yes, we had to forfeit the match. Several of us had family stuff come up on that day. I can safely say I speak for the whole team, we are really disappointed we could not go up and check out their sick course and play a good match. A few of our players did manage to drive up that weekend and ended up getting in a car accident.

Don't question me. I worked more than you, I guarentee over that course of time to make ends meet. Titan is a cancer to our organization and anyone he comes in contact with, including me, I couldnt deal with him anymore and had way more going on in my life than you could imagine.. I played in 1 disc golf tournament this summer. And, if you guys can't travel to Maine for one day in the fall?, how do you keep up your entire summer tourney schedule with "Family" stuff coming up, seeing as that's usually the busier time of the year, kids out of school and such. Don't EVER question my morals, or what I do or don't do again on a personal basis. Ever.

This is why the minimum is 8. Are we, or ARE WE NOT still in the month of October? To me, Panthorn has been the most to bitch about travel distance. Burgess had to travel 882 miles on last year in the Team Challenge Season. WE are the most isolated team in the league, bar none, being 60 miles from our nearest competitior. To me, in conjunction with the rather vocal complaining about drive distance, this was in your minds the entire time. Way to welcome a new team to the fray though kudos. If your team has too much conflict with family and other stuff that you can't field 8 players to travel, I've got one thing to say, well, two.

"We don't care." and since we don't care, "Then don't play."... if you are only going to play your home matches and away matches close to you, it's not fair for the other teams. ESPECIALLY NEW ONES!

Shame on Panthorn.

[Steve Solbo]

Most of us have families. That's why an agreed date is set ahead of time. If the car accident is the reason for the forfeit then forget my next comment.
If panthorn forfeited because they couldn't get enough guys to make the trip there should be a penalty. They commited to the league and just cost Woodland Valley one of only 5 matches played. I hope the commissioner gets involved because a straight forfeit is BS. In my baseball league if a team forfeits twice in a year they are kicked out. That's a 30 game scheduele.
Glad everyone in the accident is ok and truly hope that unfortunate incident was the reason for the no show.

Based on what he said, I think the remaining (3) members decided to still make the trip, sans the rest of the team.

Even if you only could get 7, guess what, as long as the other captain agreed, you still could have played, forfeit one singles match and one doubles match, and go with 7.

Again, shame on you Panthorn.

[Shawn Mullen]

I guess it's team challenge season....Lots of drama going on today.

Forfeits suck any time.....but things happen. The teams being located far away from each other, and the home team being available only sundays probably contributed. And yes, it is still October and sometimes matches are even played in the next month if necessary.

I hope everyone involved in the car accident is ok.

[Steve Solbo]

Even more drama when you add in that Panthorn was complaining about having to travel to Maine since day 1. AGAIN. Travel should NOT be a deterent to traveling, Maine, Burgess, Cranbury, Capt. Lawrence will all travel more than Panthorn this year. If you don't like the travel aspect of this league, you shouldn't be playing in this league.

Not to mention the complaints about the $5 greens fees. So, freaking what, it's $5. Jeez. To me, I was not surprised ONE bit when I heard they forfeited. I saw it coming from 100 miles away. Still 4 viable days this month.. what's wrong with them, and as Shawn said, you could've talked "November dates"...

No effort, to me, it sounded like a team that was already defeated, didn't want to bother and that's just a shame. I hope there is some sort of penalty...

i.e. ALL of Woodlands players get credit for a challenge and only the three that made the trek to Woodland from Panthorn get credit.

[Matt Heenan]

I guess it's team challenge season....Lots of drama going on today.

Forfeits suck any time.....but things happen. The teams being located far away from each other, and the home team being available only sundays probably contributed. And yes, it is still October and sometimes matches are even played in the next month if necessary.

I hope everyone involved in the car accident is ok.

Agreed Shawn. However, for that many people to have something suddenly come up? C'mon. The date was set. Let woodland play the new dam team that has a bye this month at a neutral site and re work schedueles.( Perhaps without Panthorn) To me challenges are the best aspect of disc and WV just got hosed big time.
I know plenty of people think I'm a douche about this but it's the integrity of the league that I'm thinking about.

[Matt Serpliss]

Solbo what the funk do you care. This is B pool so get the funk out of our threads. Im sick of all your bull [bleep] and needing to add 2 cents on everything you arent involved in. You were the one who left the B pool to Todd and frankly no one gives a [bleep] what you think. Yes we had to forfeit and the main reason to that is because most of our players have a family that they care about. We set the date knowing that only 8 players would be able to make it and one of the players father in law was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. A couple more team members considered families health was a little more important than the challenge so they backed out to help with sick family members. 3 of us made it up there to apologize and show that we really wanted to play. I dont give 2 funk what your team or any others did. You are in the A pool so you can keep your [bleep] to yourself about the B pool. Obviously neither team involved (key word being INVOLVED!) wanted this to happen but it did. On another note dont try to blame your failures on someone else you low life. Be a funk man and take the blame because it was your fault.

[Matt Heenan]

Solbo what the [bleep] do you care. This is B pool so get the [bleep] out of our threads. Im sick of all your bull [bleep] and needing to add 2 cents on everything you arent involved in. You were the one who left the B pool to Todd and frankly no one gives a [bleep] what you think. Yes we had to forfeit and the main reason to that is because most of our players have a family that they care about. We set the date knowing that only 8 players would be able to make it and one of the players father in law was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. A couple more team members considered families health was a little more important than the challenge so they backed out to help with sick family members. 3 of us made it up there to apologize and show that we really wanted to play. I dont give 2 [bleep] what your team or any others did. You are in the A pool so you can keep your [bleep] to yourself about the B pool. Obviously neither team involved (key word being INVOLVED!) wanted this to happen but it did. On another note dont try to blame your failures on someone else you low life. Be a [bleep] man and take the blame because it was your fault.

The player whose father was sadly diagnosed missed due to obvious good reason. How does that relate to several players suddenly all having health concerns. Why would you set a date with 8? And steve and myself both care because it puts a black eye on the whole league that we are all a part of. A or B pool. Kinda sick of hearing you rant about how you all have families you care about. Are you implying that we don't?
Did you all not have families at the beginning of the season. If not congrats on all your immaculate coneptions!
The the player with the extremely bad news I am very sorry to hear it and my sympathies go out to you.

[Tim_Griskus]

I'm going to chime in...and I'm not wasting my time reading any of the posts, I read a few and I don't care to read anymore.

We tried to find enough players for our match with Woodland all the way up until Friday night when I had to email Kory that we couldn't. We were even going to make a roster change to play them when we shouldn't have had to. However things happen people have families I am one of those people. I was one of those people that had to back out. You want my reason, here it is:

Both my children have just stated back at daycare after a couple years of being at home...they both are now ill and are still ill as I post this. Not only are they ill my wife took ill last wednesday, I was hoping she would improve so that I could travel to NH on Sat night stay with my team and then travel to ME on Sunday to play the challenge. That did not happen. So you go ahead and tell me that I should have left my wife home sick with a 5 yr old and 1 yr old (both of them sick, throwing up all over) by herself so I could go play disc golf? Anyone? Anyone gonna tell me that I should have left my sick family to play disc?

Also is anyone going to tell Ryan Brunelle's wife that he has to play disc golf while her father is dying? Anyone? Heenan? Solbo?

If either of you think I or Ryan should put disc golf before our family or kids you're effing crazy!!

Bottom line we had 8 including the person we were going to add to our roster, he is the FIRE CHIEF and had to go to work on Sunday....that leaves us 7, Ryan had to go be with his family on Sunday so his wife to spend time with her dying father....now we are at 6....and I had to stay home and take care of my family who were all ill. Now we are at 5....

Rest of our team had other things family (here heenan let me make this big enough for you to read) or previous plans that were scheduled. We worked with Woodland Valley to set a date in October the 17th was it it was the best date for both teams. Shyte happens, we forfeited we weren't happy about it at all and still aren't.

And some of our team members went to Maine to represent our team show Woodland that we really did want to come it wasn't that we didn't want to play or go that far or anything else you might have put above. And what happens to them? THEY GET IN A CAR CRASH!!! Yeah great, go ahead and complain all you want. I don't care.

My only other suggestion? We try to reschedule the match with Woodland for our off months Dec or Jan if they are willing to do that I have to problem with trying to get a date together with them.

Otherwise everyone else can piss off!!!

[Matt Serpliss]

Solbo what the [bleep] do you care. This is B pool so get the [bleep] out of our threads. Im sick of all your bull [bleep] and needing to add 2 cents on everything you arent involved in. You were the one who left the B pool to Todd and frankly no one gives a [bleep] what you think. Yes we had to forfeit and the main reason to that is because most of our players have a family that they care about. We set the date knowing that only 8 players would be able to make it and one of the players father in law was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. A couple more team members considered families health was a little more important than the challenge so they backed out to help with sick family members. 3 of us made it up there to apologize and show that we really wanted to play. I dont give 2 [bleep] what your team or any others did. You are in the A pool so you can keep your [bleep] to yourself about the B pool. Obviously neither team involved (key word being INVOLVED!) wanted this to happen but it did. On another note dont try to blame your failures on someone else you low life. Be a [bleep] man and take the blame because it was your fault.

The player whose father was sadly diagnosed missed due to obvious good reason. How does that relate to several players suddenly all having health concerns. Why would you set a date with 8? And steve and myself both care because it puts a black eye on the whole league that we are all a part of. A or B pool. Kinda sick of hearing you rant about how you all have families you care about. Are you implying that we don't?
Did you all not have families at the beginning of the season. If not congrats on all your immaculate coneptions!
The the player with the extremely bad news I am very sorry to hear it and my sympathies go out to you.

By saying families we care about Im saying they wouldnt ditch them while thay are sick. Im sorry our team isnt psychic and knows when our family is going to be sick As for the date setting with 8, Thats the best we could do. This month just didnt work out for our team and there were many factors to that. Unfortunate things pooped up and we couldnt field the team at the last second. This is a funk way to end my weekend. Huge accident, I cant walk/dont know if I will be able to play disc anytime sonn, and dealing with a bunch of ass monkeys on the boards. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE! Sorry that one forfeit makes you look bad but suck it up!

[Matt Heenan]

Tim perhaps you missed my writing that my sympathies were with him. Don't need your life story either. Roster is 16. Things do happen, tim if family is sick you made right choice. Same as Ryan. That leaves 14. Don't negate the fact that the majority of your team said F it it's too far. Challenges have been moved to different dates even months to accomodate. I would find it very difficult to believe that Woodland would not have agreed to some accomodation of a later date.
Tim you are a dink. Now I'll leave it alone