NEFA DISCussion

Gary Cyr wrote:

Matt Grayum wrote: What are you trying differently than before? Fan grip? Push put? Leg lift?

Hitting the chains!

Matt Grayum wrote: Another thread idea would be "how to be consistent in your disc golf game".

Matt Grayum wrote:A difference for the better? ha, just messin.

What are you trying differently than before? Fan grip? Push put? Leg lift?

Gary Cyr wrote:Hitting the chains!

Chris Mergemekes wrote:

Matt Grayum wrote:A difference for the better? ha, just messin.

What are you trying differently than before? Fan grip? Push put? Leg lift?

1. Fan grip - Up until a few weeks ago, I was fan gripping but noticed my the disc was wobbly, so I started putting my index finger in front to stabilize the disc and I was doing fine, even though it's not "proper" technique and isn't good for longer putts. But now with those other tips, and with the fan grip, the disc isn't wobbly as often as it was.

2. Leg postion - I am squaring up to the basket more and keeping on my toes, and lifting my chin. Previously, I was keeping my back leg more behind my front leg than out at an angle like Avery does in the video, except when straddle putting, obviously. I took his suggestion of staying more on my toes.

3. Chin up - I didn't know about the chin technique.

4. Being confident that I can make the putts that I know I can make and laying up when the odds are less in my favor.

With all of this in place now, the sensation of release recognition is even more prevalent. And it seems to take less effort than before and I was getting to a good point of "effort-less" putting but I was getting close more than hitting my target spot. I use the push putt unless there's wind. It's good to have both techniques. I can spin/ wrist putt pretty good so it was those other things that have really helped.

And yes,

Gary Cyr wrote:Hitting the chains!

Matt Grayum wrote:... aims for a specific chain link. Literally an individual chain link on the basket. Depending on wind or elevation he will move up or down the link to the appropriate location.

Chris Mergemekes wrote:

Kevin Gardner wrote:practice the confidence it takes to make putts.

I like this.

I utilize all the methods that have been posted so far. I'll stack some putters from one spot and scatter from different locations. I approach each putt as it were my only one. If I shoot multiple putts from one location, it helps correct mistakes. I'll end a set with a group of putts from a distance that I'm confident that I can make. I'll use different makes and models too, because from 10/ 15/ 20 feet, It doesn't matter if a putter is stable, overstable, etc. since it's pretty much a straight shot to the chains. Depending on the distance, slope, and wind, I aim at different locations on the target. If it's the chains, I'll pick one link of a chain to aim at. I agree with 20 minute sets. For longer shots, one technique I utilize a lot is the "Doubles" technique: I'll use two putters/ approach discs, put the first one close, then run the other one. I once read something about remembering what it feels like physically to makie a putt and I have to say that at first it took some getting used to, but now, I know immediately after release, if it's going in, if I rushed, if I followed through, or if my aim was off.

Good post Matty!

Gary Cyr wrote:

Matt Grayum wrote: Another thread idea would be "how to be consistent in your disc golf game".

That one is easy.

Don't try to do things that are outside your own disgolf abilities.

Matt Grayum wrote:

Gary Cyr wrote:

Matt Grayum wrote: Another thread idea would be "how to be consistent in your disc golf game".

That one is easy.

Don't try to do things that are outside your own disgolf abilities.

Then how would a player improve to te next level if they never try things outside what they can do well?

Matt Grayum wrote:

Gary Cyr wrote:

Matt Grayum wrote: Another thread idea would be "how to be consistent in your disc golf game".

That one is easy.

Don't try to do things that are outside your own disgolf abilities.

Then how would a player improve to te next level if they never try things outside what they can do well?

Matt Grayum wrote:Something they only slightly mentioned was "aiming high or low based on tail/head wind". Something that has helped me dramatically improve my putting game (thanks to Keith Burtt) was in talking about putting practice he mentioned that he aims for a specific chain link. Literally an individual chain link on the basket. Depending on wind or elevation he will move up or down the link to the appropriate location. I used to aim for "center/right chains" and now that I am picking a more specific spot I seem to hit putts more often.

Matt Grayum wrote:

Gary Cyr wrote:

Matt Grayum wrote: Another thread idea would be "how to be consistent in your disc golf game".

That one is easy.
Don't try to do things that are outside your own disgolf abilities.

Then how would a player improve to te next level if they never try things outside what they can do well?

jlivingston wrote:How about during PRACTICE? Another thread idead would be "how to give advice to the clueless".

Matt Grayum wrote:
Another new thing I started doing to help my consistency in putting is to have a small "routine". Similar to a free throw shot in basketball.

Rick Mahoney wrote:I don't want to talk about putting. You know how I practice? 80+ rounds so far this year. Very few wasted practice shots but building a routine I suppose. I am always surprised when I hit a putt. Matt, you're so cerebral. I just try not to think about anything. I had to throw over the trees at the 12 silver basket and it nearly went in. I was asked where I was looking when I threw... "I don't know, my eyes shut off once my arm knew what to do." Someone once asked me where my thumb is when I grip, I have no idea and don't even want to think about it. I grabbed a disc out of my bag on the next tee and showed him where my thumb ended up (four finger power grip was my natural grasp, too), then I put it out of my mind and ripped it, probably parked it.

Remember the commercial with Veejay Singh addressing a teed ball? A thought pops up on the screen, then another and another and then dozens... keep your head down, arm straight, knee bent, blah blah blah. I once struggled through the front 9 in ball golf because I couldn't figure out where to set my jaw.

I am embracing the tag someone put on me, Rec Rick, I am in it for the recreation. Though it was intended to label me a sandbagger because I won my first tourney as a rec, it fits.

Josh Connor wrote:This may be slightly off topic, but I think its still relevant in here. Recently ive been in a bit of a putting funk and have entertained the idea of switching to a new putter in hopes of turning things around.

Not sure if this is mental, physical, scientific or all of the above but might have to give it a try. During the vibram birdy mini I was forced to use the firm? summit that I picked and something about it worked for my putting/confidence/feel in the hand...etc It might have just been the setting of putting being carefree because the come back didnt matter or because something new always feels different/new/better (grass is greener affect), but just wondering if other people have some thoughts on this. My current putter is a kc pro aviar.

Josh Connor wrote:This may be slightly off topic, but I think its still relevant in here. Recently ive been in a bit of a putting funk and have entertained the idea of switching to a new putter in hopes of turning things around.

Not sure if this is mental, physical, scientific or all of the above but might have to give it a try. During the vibram birdy mini I was forced to use the firm? summit that I picked and something about it worked for my putting/confidence/feel in the hand...etc It might have just been the setting of putting being carefree because the come back didnt matter or because something new always feels different/new/better (grass is greener affect), but just wondering if other people have some thoughts on this. My current putter is a kc pro aviar.

Matt Grayum wrote:

Josh Connor wrote:This may be slightly off topic, but I think its still relevant in here. Recently ive been in a bit of a putting funk and have entertained the idea of switching to a new putter in hopes of turning things around.

Not sure if this is mental, physical, scientific or all of the above but might have to give it a try. During the vibram birdy mini I was forced to use the firm? summit that I picked and something about it worked for my putting/confidence/feel in the hand...etc It might have just been the setting of putting being carefree because the come back didnt matter or because something new always feels different/new/better (grass is greener affect), but just wondering if other people have some thoughts on this. My current putter is a kc pro aviar.

I was able to use my putter at the Vibram mini contest because I already used Vibram putters (Ridge). I did feel my putting confidence went up because like you said, the comeback didn't matter. I think that definitely had something to do with the better putting on Saturday.

I do think putting is a big mental game. It's almost like the "placebo" effect. If you believe the putter you have is going to go in then your confidence rises and you are more likely to hit the putt. If you took your first couple of putts with the summit and hit the putt you are more likely to think the putter is great and that will help your putting game throughout the round.

Interesting thoughts that you bring up, though. The putting "funk" I get that. That's what started this whole thread. I then proceeded to analyzing putt and work on the basics and regained a lot of my confidence. I would say this, though, inside 20ft I think I could use any putter.

Keith Burtt wrote:Ive never seen a top 50 player in the world putt like that. Its far more difficult to reproduce, you need to be shifting your weight from back foot to front. $.02

Josh Connor wrote:This may be slightly off topic, but I think its still relevant in here. Recently ive been in a bit of a putting funk and have entertained the idea of switching to a new putter in hopes of turning things around.

Not sure if this is mental, physical, scientific or all of the above but might have to give it a try. During the vibram birdy mini I was forced to use the firm? summit that I picked and something about it worked for my putting/confidence/feel in the hand...etc It might have just been the setting of putting being carefree because the come back didnt matter or because something new always feels different/new/better (grass is greener affect), but just wondering if other people have some thoughts on this. My current putter is a kc pro aviar.