Finals Locations / Players

Joe Yaskis · Post by **Joe Yaskis** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:46 am

I just told you why Pyramids would not work, but I dont know if you read posts or if you read what you want to read. I have stated why these three courses are the options and I'm not adding any more. You are right Andrew, I have had enough of this and I want you to take one second and place your self in my shoes. Things have to get done and If all we did was argue here nothing would get done. I get stuff done, plain and simple. I could care less where we play. It does not really matter to me, but there have to be options and all these options that I have mentioned in previous posts are free to play: Barre, Tully, West Thompson.

PM DECISIONS TO ME BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. THANKS. TEAMS THAT DO NOT MAKE A DECISION, THEIR VOTES WILL NOT COUNT.

PEacE out-

Lets let the discs do the talking=

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:05 am

discglfr05 wrote:
yaskis wrote:Pyramids is not free to play. It costs 5 dollars a man. Jason would probably have to shut down his course. If every one shows up there would be 96 golfers.

Andrew
Do you like to argue? Where do you want to play. Where ever you want to play is where we will Is that OK-

You have 3 choices

Andrew you can take over next year and run it where ever you want. Is that cool

No Joe, I don't like to argue but for some reason, I seem to be the one singled out for causing "problems" I guess...even though, there are other posters who have brought up the same issue (eg why those three courses/ why no other alternatives...thus far I haven't seen any reasons why). I guess by belaboring the point and asking for explanations for reasons of clarification, then I'm being unreasonable.

You're doing a great job Joe, and always have since this challenge started. Obviously there are concerns brought up by some team captains about the choices for final challenge locations...not just me. Instead of anwering or addressing these concerns, you make a post saying you're all done after this year and it's 3 choices....yeah, that clears things up nicely. Whatever Joe, keep on keepin on

BLA..BLA..BLA.. :cry:

And I thought I like to bitch.. How about we go to Logan Airport and setup some baskets any one agree or has someone already played there once? :lol:

Mike Dussault · Post by **Mike Dussault** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:12 am

You got to give it more time then four days to vote. This new edict about voting before the week is over is too soon. Give it until the end of next week minimum. and no, I do not want to run the challenge next year.

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:17 am

yaskis wrote:I just told you why Pyramids would not work, but I dont know if you read posts or if you read what you want to read.

I read the whole post including the answer as to why Pyramids doesn't work. Prior to my post, did you address this issue?....NO, not until I brought it up again, so don't tell me I read what I want to read. You've explained it now after much "badgering" by me and others and I don't think your explanation is as cut n dry as you make it out to be.

So, no alternative if all three courses are flooded. Does anyone mind paying to play at Pyramids for the finals?...afterall, we're talking $5 pp here and I'm sure there are some who are already members. At the very least, why not consider Pyramids as an alternative? Are you comfortable assuming that no one wants to pay this fee?....I could care less about $5 ...hell, I'd donate the same amount to any course we play for taking it over for the day

Anyone else wanna weigh in on this who has expressed concerns? or are you all content to let me piss Joe off to no end with my senseless ramblings and take all the heat for harping on concerns previously raised. Sorry for trying to get more info, I'll try to be a good sheep from now on.

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:53 am

discglfr05 wrote:
yaskis wrote:I just told you why Pyramids would not work, but I dont know if you read posts or if you read what you want to read.

I read the whole post including the answer as to why Pyramids doesn't work. Prior to my post, did you address this issue?....NO, not until I brought it up again, so don't tell me I read what I want to read. You've explained it now after much "badgering" by me and others and I don't think your explanation is as cut n dry as you make it out to be.

So, no alternative if all three courses are flooded. Does anyone mind paying to play at Pyramids for the finals?...afterall, we're talking $5 pp here and I'm sure there are some who are already members. At the very least, why not consider Pyramids as an alternative? Are you comfortable assuming that no one wants to pay this fee?....I could care less about $5 ...hell, I'd donate the same amount to any course we play for taking it over for the day

Anyone else wanna weigh in on this who has expressed concerns? or are you all content to let me piss Joe off to no end with my senseless ramblings and take all the heat for harping on concerns previously raised. Sorry for trying to get more info, I'll try to be a good sheep from now on.

Sound like a little girl.. I vote Logan Airport no fee there.

Joe Yaskis · Post by **Joe Yaskis** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:02 pm

Mike it says by the end of next week.

McManus if you have a big problem PM me

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:03 pm

Once in life a man who I completey hated said this to me. Now, I hated him but there was great validity in this statement

"There are two kinds of people in this word, those that would rather be right,..and those that would rather be rich"

There are only a handful of courses we could even think of playing that are not some teams home course. And most of those (Northampton, Barre, Norwalk) would be a huge drive for everybody.

Joe's the commish, he makes the rules. Why do people have to bitch at him?

Just pick from the 3 courses and vote. Who cares how we got to where we are at.

Mike Dussault · Post by **Mike Dussault** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:49 pm

Sound like a little girl.. I vote Logan Airport no fee there.[/quote]

Always willing to add something constructive to the conversation Bobby.

:wink:

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:34 pm

mike d wrote::cry: Sound like a little girl.. I vote Logan Airport no fee there.

Always willing to add something constructive to the conversation Bobby.

:wink:

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Mike If you call bitching and whining constructive then count me out. You guys make it sound like it the super bowl. Does Ken Climo whine like you guys when he goes to a tourney and says its not fair its not home field advantage? No the dude goes and takes it down.. Also the courses Joe choose where neutral like everyone agreed too but now ppl bitch...Mike I don't give two shts where we play but everyone else does. I still say Logan airport final answer.. :cry:

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:52 pm

Bobby D wrote:
mike d wrote::cry: Sound like a little girl.. I vote Logan Airport no fee there.

Always willing to add something constructive to the conversation Bobby.

Mike If you call bitching and whining constructive then count me out. You guys make it sound like it the super bowl. Does Ken Climo whine like you guys when he goes to a tourney and says its not fair its not home field advantage? No the dude goes and takes it down.. Also the courses Joe choose where neutral like everyone agreed too but now ppl bitch...Mike I don't give two shts where we play but everyone else does. I still say Logan airport final answer.. :cry:

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For the record Bob, I've made it known to other team captains that I don't consider the choices given to represent any kind of advantage to any team. My point (if you care to read prior posts) is that at least one more choice should be given. Hopefully, flooding won't be an issue but if it is, like Gary said, all ACOE courses will be flooded, so why not have one more alternative?

Also, if you look back, you'll see I (team NASA) voted for West Thompson and I haven't changed my mind on that at all....take the time to read over things Bob, it'll help you look a lot less foolish

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:01 pm

reading is for suckers. put more pictures in your posts.

This equals bad:

That's why there should be an alternative, NON DAM course. I think that is the point of what Andrew is saying.

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:05 pm

Well Joe gave 3 choices and no one has voted plain and simple.. If he is running the show then those are the places he has thought about and decided to go with that would be with in driving and neutral course for all teams. I don't care, I already chose one of the three and I didn't cry and ask for more places to choose from which seems like ppl are doing. I want Tully, no I want Logan, no I want FDR..... :roll:

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:07 pm

Fu Man wrote:reading is for suckers. put more pictures in your posts.

This equals bad:

That's why there should be an alternative, NON DAM course. I think that is the point of what Andrew is saying.

Matt hit the put and you wont have to worry about going in the drink.. :lol:

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:29 pm

Bobby D wrote:
Fu Man wrote:reading is for suckers. put more pictures in your posts.

This equals bad:

That's why there should be an alternative, NON DAM course. I think that is the point of what Andrew is saying.

Matt hit the put and you wont have to worry about going in the drink..

Hit the Putt? How the hell is he gonna get the drive there. The tee box is 4 feet underwater. Basket one is completly submerged. If you could look to the left of where you see basket #2, you wouldn't see basket #16 or tee box #3,..both under water.

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:59 pm

Come on Gary you down have an overhand chop in your bag? who needs a run up.

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:23 pm

Bobby D wrote: I don't care, I already chose one of the three and I didn't cry and ask for more places to choose from which seems like ppl are doing. I want Tully, no I want Logan, no I want FDR.....

What's wrong with adding another course in the mix that won't be potentially affected by flood waters? It's really pretty simple but then again, maybe not

Matt: obviously visual aids aren't helping :lol:

, I think slap therapy is in order.

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:36 pm

discglfr05 wrote:
Bobby D wrote: I don't care, I already chose one of the three and I didn't cry and ask for more places to choose from which seems like ppl are doing. I want Tully, no I want Logan, no I want FDR.....

What's wrong with adding another course in the mix that won't be potentially affected by flood waters? It's really pretty simple but then again, maybe not

Matt: obviously visual aids aren't helping , I think slap therapy is in order.

Slap therapy isnt that how girls fight? Didnt know you where that tough..

Shaun LaForce · Post by **Shaun LaForce** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:38 pm

Buttons, are you even aloud to post outside of purgatory??? It makes perfect sense what Drew is talking about. Is there not an answer to his question, or does it not want to be addressed?

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:40 pm

I think it just isn't being addressed for some reason?

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:46 pm

Where do you guys propose to play (Non Dam Course) that is a neutral site without some people driving for 3 hours or even more?

Thompson is the perfect place and unless we get tons of rain in the Spring, we would only lose two holes.

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:02 pm

Ringe, NH

Pete Tolvanen · Post by **Pete Tolvanen** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:47 pm

Ringe - now we're talking classic disc golf.

Maple Hill team-members finished with 5 of the top 15 scores at this years NH States with Steve Dodge not even playing!

(of course it's a private course with an outrageous yearly membership but it is fun to dream...)

While we're dreaming - for next year we were tossing around the idea that the LAST place team that played all it's matches* host the finals.

They handle the logistics of lunch, permits, etc and start with the now traditional biggest deficit against all other teams but have a fighting chance since the finals is on their home turf.

*played all matches to keep some far-away bagger team from forfeiting all away matches then 'winning' the finals at their home course in the one match they might conceivably play...

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:44 am

I dont like giving any team homefield for finals.

I say if we do that, the team in last gets a HUGE deficit to overcome.

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:49 am

Bobby D wrote:
discglfr05 wrote:
Bobby D wrote: I don't care, I already chose one of the three and I didn't cry and ask for more places to choose from which seems like ppl are doing. I want Tully, no I want Logan, no I want FDR.....

What's wrong with adding another course in the mix that won't be potentially affected by flood waters? It's really pretty simple but then again, maybe not

Matt: obviously visual aids aren't helping , I think slap therapy is in order.

Slap therapy isnt that how girls fight? Didnt know you where that tough..

Wow, you sure got me their Bob.

Mike Dussault · Post by **Mike Dussault** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:56 am

B-Lands vote is for Barre.

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:06 am

Gary/Mass wrote:Where do you guys propose to play (Non Dam Course) that is a neutral site without some people driving for 3 hours or even more?

Thompson is the perfect place and unless we get tons of rain in the Spring, we would only lose two holes.

Least someone has brains.. West T, neutral course and no one even goes there.. I played like 4 times in 4 years and im sure other ppl too. WOW crazy home field there dont you think? I have a hard enough time at my own course never mind a neutral. :lol:

I vote Logan Airport its still close enough for everone with out driving 4 hours.

Dave Jackson · Post by **Dave Jackson** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:31 am

OK everyone. I vote to have the finals at the most neutral course possible. I'm not sure wich one it is. I know this, Tully has a far less chance of flooding in the spring than West Thompson or Barre. But strange things do happen and it may flood like the rest of the ACOE courses.
Here is the question, what if half the teams vote for West Thompson and the other teams vote for Barre Falls in a dead nuts tie, 4 votes for each course? I guess one team voted for Barre, a few teams have voted for West Thompson and I'm sure there will be other teams who vote for Barre. I know some of the captains don't want to play @ West Thompson. I like the choices put out there by Joe. They are all good courses and a good decision to pick those three. I've heard a little whining about the whole process of selecting finals courses. I think we all need to understand that Joe is putting alot of effort to make this Team Challenge work for all of us.
So here is a simple solution if we have four teams vote for West Thompson and the other four teams vote for Barre Falls, we go play @ Tully in picturesque Athol, MA. There is no team that plays there regularly. I wonder if there is a group of players that play there regularly.
My vote for Commish for the 08-09 season...... Joe Yaskis :wink:

Andy Gallerani · Post by **Andy Gallerani** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:41 am

Joe
Did Devens vote change get accepted or are we still voting for Barre?

Bobby Direnzo · Post by **Bobby Direnzo** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:28 am

worm wrote:OK everyone. I vote to have the finals at the most neutral course possible. I'm not sure wich one it is. I know this, Tully has a far less chance of flooding in the spring than West Thompson or Barre. But strange things do happen and it may flood like the rest of the ACOE courses.
Here is the question, what if half the teams vote for West Thompson and the other teams vote for Barre Falls in a dead nuts tie, 4 votes for each course? I guess one team voted for Barre, a few teams have voted for West Thompson and I'm sure there will be other teams who vote for Barre. I know some of the captains don't want to play @ West Thompson. I like the choices put out there by Joe. They are all good courses and a good decision to pick those three. I've heard a little whining about the whole process of selecting finals courses. I think we all need to understand that Joe is putting alot of effort to make this Team Challenge work for all of us.
So here is a simple solution if we have four teams vote for West Thompson and the other four teams vote for Barre Falls, we go play @ Tully in picturesque Athol, MA. There is no team that plays there regularly. I wonder if there is a group of players that play there regularly.
My vote for Commish for the 08-09 season...... Joe Yaskis

I agree thats a good Idea or we can mix it up and play 1 round of singles at West T and the other round doubles at Barre or vis versa.. Only 45 min between the two.

Joe Yaskis · Post by **Joe Yaskis** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:07 am

We cant do two courses.

Andy I will PM you later tonight.

I will figure out what is going on later tonight with the votes and post what we have so far