Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway

[Titan_Bariloni]

spoke w/ Dave R today

we will be meeting Sat 5/3 10am in parking area off from RT 140...semi across street from Gardner Bike path.I dont have GPS coords yet

this will be intial design work and blah blah

there will be many more meetings this is just a start

feel free to join us..or catch the next time

thanks

[Trent Solomon]

spoke w/ Dave R today

we will be meeting Sat 5/3 10am in parking area off from RT 140...semi across street from Gardner Bike path.I dont have GPS coords yet

this will be intial design work and blah blah

there will be many more meetings this is just a start

feel free to join us..or catch the next time

thanks

I can probably go up for a little bit before tball starts.

[Paul Schueller]

Hey Trent,
Did Bobka get you that Havoc yet? Maybe you could relay the Sorcerer to Dave or Titan for me if you read this in time.
Paul

[Trent Solomon]

Hey Trent,
Did Bobka get you that Havoc yet? Maybe you could relay the Sorcerer to Dave or Titan for me if you read this in time.
Paul

No such luck my friend

[Jim Bobka]

Ok stop making me feel guilty!! Trent, I'll be at Coggs this Monday.

[Rick Hobbs]

Nice work getting the ball rolling again. Now that we've got a few more people stepping up for Coggshall, there's a possibility for me to contribute some time to this project. This course when built will fill the RT2 gap between Coogs and Tully nicely.
I'd like to do a walk through in any case but I see I'm already late for today- next time, I hope...
Rick

[Titan_Bariloni]

nice TY for the interest ALL

Myself,Trenton, and Dave R all showed today

Trent and I took a stroll and targeted some holes and just overall walked around identifing some thangs

Dave showed..Trent had to bounce and myself and Dave rewalked the land discovering some new thangs and some better flow..

I have now walked the land 2x before harvest and 3 times post harvest..

It is strange cuz it is like the timber harvest people cut the land for a DG course..werd...

there are so many logging roads,non property boundary stone walls and fresh cuts that it is a tad confusing...

there is a cart road that intersects the property almost in half...
before we were thinking 9&9 but there is tooo much land..lol all awesome DG land...so we now are going with 18 on one side...and in the future years down the line another course will be put in on the other side...Dave is popping hot ready to go on this and Trenton has a DG shop right down the road...so the future is bright..and wow another mecca just sprouts up with time,labor and funds...I just love it really

so I/we am not fighting the land in the sense of going chainsaw blazing crazy gung ho...we are going to work with the infinite seams and coolness the timber harvest left...heck there is enough to clean up for a pack of work a day workers for a year

the course will be thin wooded with some diverse terrain

all that said..logistics dictate everything..regardless of the land..you can have an awesome hole but if it doesn't connect well to others then well it sux...

we have determined where holes 1 & 18 almost have to go and have early thoughts on the actual holes...

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,18 have been semi identified

we now have to work semi backwards from 18 to connect back to 13...we have room to play on 13..and cool land between 13-18 so 14,15,16,17 will be fine and have a birdy fest type feel to end on a longer hole 18..so the home stretch will demand scoring to perform with the field/etc etc and lets face it some birdy holes can be fun as heck

back on 13 will be a massive converging spot in years to come for the 2 courses and will be this awesome DG gathering spot when out playing..it is also a spot that can be changed/tweaked to fit the futures needs...so kinda critical actually

I am on getting flags,marking tape...Dave is on finding/learning a mapping APP to overlay coordinates onto map...

we will mark/map what we have,revisit 14-17 and identify actually what we wanna do...then overlay and look at our map relative to the land boundaries...se where we have some big gaps...revisit and see if we could/should adjust/tweak....

once that is all done..we will open to all to come out walk the design..add input..we will take that input and discuss if it applies to reality...

then Dave/I will take the proposed layout to City...and set for walkthrough for final green lights to proceed with work...

serious when I say the land is perfect for DG after that timber harvest...amazing really

then it is onto what we can do with debris...pile/chip/burn....once determined will decide on how we should proceed with the next step

so after that is finalized...we will flag the outer edges with marking tape,mark off where piles need to go...and then it is basically just go frigging nuts on cleaning the forest debris to pile areas...

I suspect tees will go in before baskets on this project...as fundraising for baskets vs donated tee material will make that go along quicker..I kinda like that though..then the baskets are last instead of ok got baskets now onto tee..grrrr more work..lol

fund rasing plan will be formulated soon...IMO approahing local businesses is the best approach...as we can have signs in their honor put up here...and OBV DG'ers, and hopefully some City funds are alocated but not holding my breath

Trent..we found some cooler routes/options/flow...and tweaked some stuff...as it will be tweaked again prev mentioned I am sure...the entire left side of cart road we are not touching as of now...

we also have great access for vehicles/atvs to get out to virtually everything we need to touch..that will help soooooo much

That all said this needs to be a group effort...I can help with design,PTB meetings,etc etc...but actuall dedicated labor needs to come from within the Gardner area...of course I wont be able to resist a few work days...but I honestly was thrown a curve ball here and to keep the RT2 plan going forward I have to attach more to the western push up coming and finsih RF&G by Fall...so Guy and I can crush Wenell..it is where my/our hearts are..so inner passion from Gardner needs to be present..cuz passion,dedication,hardwork is what this is gonna take!!!!!!

Ok that is enough Blah blah for now....stuff to ponder and things are looking great!!!!

I am so confident that this site will crush it for Gardner citizens,DG in general and be a cornerstone in nefa land that helps connect all the dots north/east/west of the location

Ok Thanks again all for the interest...remember patience,passion and hardwork folks..lets DO THIS

[Titan_Bariloni]

also
paul I have your disc from Trent...cya soon

[Paul Schueller]

When this course is done I think Dave should get a side gig teaching DG at the community college.

[Titan_Bariloni]

the winchendon golf school is right down the street as well..they would be fools not to include DG as well for more potential $$$$...I plan on having that convo eventually..as I am often in winch of late coaching/playing(poker)during the week

side note the public BG course is close as well..hospital wellness/exercise programs, boyscouts camp collier,mylec hockey center,bogey free DG,bike paths,no foot traffic=riftraft and of course as you mentioned The MNT...

so this will fit so nice..almost erie how perfect this piece of land really is...

attach an awesome bussiness like the ALE house and wowzer....

seriously Gardner just BLEW off the planet...you shall all see...one day lol

[Titan_Bariloni]

hope to be back out there doing some design work this week..will post date/time when I confirm

all are encouraged and welcomed to come join in on the fun

[Titan_Bariloni]

meeting Dave R Sat I believe

will post time when we confirm

hope to see some of ya out there

don't be skeeeeered come make your mark on the course!!!

[Titan_Bariloni]

thanks to
Dave R
Paul S
Bradley
myself

we mapped out what we discovered already and explored the next waive of design

good to have a better feel for the land

holes 14-17 are not yet determined but we have a sense of where they need to go..

but more exploration of the land is needed after we get things mapped to better determine what parcels of land we may have overlooked

I think South of hole 10/11 needs to be considered for better accessment of the overall land allotted, and maybe think about using a portion of the fielded area for exit rather the end points we have now

we may find something cool down there freeing up more land towards the end of proposed loop as to not feel crammed/tied on creativity

summary of agenda
map what we do have,identify cart road/powerline other easement on map, explore south of holes 10/11,let the dust settle and ponder if we missed anything/don't like something,gather all our overall information for City to approve,mark via tape/flags,determine what resources we will have on City side,round up troops/resopurces on the DG side,formulate work schedule/list of task,begin fundraising efforts

thanks we are progressing nicely

[Andy Duquette]

Titan, let me know when you plan on going out there to walk it. I'd like to take a look. I live just off of 140 in Gardner.

[Titan_Bariloni]

next walk through is being ironed out currently

depends when Dave and I can make schedules work

we have 3-5 holes to iron out until we have a design product to present to City

thanks Duke..wondering where you have been

[Titan_Bariloni]

Sunday 1pm 6/1
Dave R and I will meeting to explore some property we wish to incorporate

We need to find 2-3 solid holes from this land mass and then revisit post hole 14-18

anyone is welcomed and encouraged, meet in logging staging area right off RT140

thanks

[Titan_Bariloni]

Dave and I spent 2-3 hours mapping,and finalizing some design aspects

found 2 new holes that are great, very pumped about them and figured out what we are gonna do with the ending

as of now we are moving to getting the holes all laid out onto the city maps to see what they say and then move on from there

so we have are tentative 18 hole loop completed

gotta go for now will update more soon

[Trent Solomon]

Dave and I spent 2-3 hours mapping,and finalizing some design aspects

found 2 new holes that are great, very pumped about them and figured out what we are gonna do with the ending

as of now we are moving to getting the holes all laid out onto the city maps to see what they say and then move on from there

so we have are tentative 18 hole loop completed

gotta go for now will update more soon

Wish I could have made 8th today but graduation takes precedence

[Titan_Bariloni]

I am pumped we were able to create 18 holes all to the right of the cart road

leaving about 40acres for the future!!!!

ponder that 2 courses in a few years
wowzer

edit.

I must say Dave has some strong passion for this piece of land and for gardner in general...

I also must admit he has an eye for design and we gelled great out there
I am confident he will be a great lead for this project!!!!

more details as they roll in

[Titan_Bariloni]

exchanged information with the city map lady(she is awesome BTW)

all of our way points are within the property and away from any conflicts

once we remap depicting hole shapes,trails with actual tee/pin waypoints then the overall design will be overlayed onto the huge city map and sent out to PTB who need to see engineer,conservation, and community planning for final approval

once that is granted then the entire property will be flagged,marked to begin early work!!!

things are rolling along nicely and I must add this has been such a smooth adventure so far and am confident we have used the land to its full potential creating fun,challenging shots that will give the player an overall great DG adventure

will update as more information comes around

time frame will be about 2 weeks till be are ready to overlay onto city map, and then we are at the mercy of the PTB

thanks and stay tuned lurkers

[Titan_Bariloni]

spoke with Community Devlp Planner via email

updated him on the progress, and gave him some time lines on the next phase
Dave and I are super busy as of now, so the final map won't be submitted until late July
the timber harvest people are on other side of land so work can't start anyways till their extraction due to saefty concerns anyways..much like Brooklyn CT

we will find the time to get the design fully mapped depicting trails,shot shape as we just have way points for baskets/pin as of now

they were cross referenced my city mapper and all approved

after we have the entire picture mapped, it will be overlaid onto a giant city map for further approval processes, after that fundraising and on course flagging will occur

the plan is to mark everything in different color ribbons with a make shift kiosk depicting what the colors mean and what needs to be done example "inside red falgs drag debris to green ribboned off area"

anyways progression has still been occuring

any early help is welcomed

thanks

[Ashburnham Gil]

Hello,

I'm a relative new player, but live about 10 minutes from this new site & am interested in helping out in anyway a new player can. Let me know when you guys start building the course & I'd love to help out.

Gil

[Titan_Bariloni]

thanks for the interest Gil
this is def close to ashburnham

once the dust settles from this mid season event schedule we will be back at it
just keep an eye on this thread or email rt2dgc@gmail.com or pm me your contact info

tell some friends also

hope to cya out there soon

[Titan_Bariloni]

Dave and I are just trying to get schedules to match for a final mapping of course,trails etc to submit for final approval

hoping soon

stay tuned

keep the interest and energy alive folks

[Titan_Bariloni]

dave and i have been busy with babies

anyone who knows how to use gps mapping app lmk
would love to meet up walk layout and get er mapped for next process approval

discuss and thanks

would love to reach the next phase this year

[Paul Schueller]

I should be able to help with this. I have a GPS and can try mapping it with Google Earth. Also, My wife had mentioned she might be able to do the mapping for us in GIS.

[Titan_Bariloni]

lmk...and we can target a date/time

gonna get some tips from jay mello as well

[Paul Schueller]

I will try to figure out when I could get out there. Also, if you ever get out there with someone else to get the coordinates, I could handle the mapping of them.

[Titan_Bariloni]

sounds good..

i got all pins/tee coords

need trails,cart road and hole shapes/fairway depictions

[Tony Ruschioni]

Seriously interested in helping out with this course in any way I can. To have a course 8 minutes up the road from me is an amazing thought and I will be happy to participate in the building of it.

Let me know.