B Pool Finals Info

[Todd Lapham]

Dave,
I don't think you are familiar with the definition of hosting. Asking us to pay $400 is not hosting. Plus shutting down Maple for one day would absolutely not cost you $400. There is no way that $400 gets put into Maple in one day for greens fees...come on man!

I don't think you understand the word hosting!

a person, place, company, or the like, that provides services, resources, etc., as for a convention or sporting event: Our city would like to serve as host for the next Winter Olympics.

I'm pretty sure you're confusing hosting with donating...

Do you really expect a business to shut down operations for a whole day, close the course to the public, let everyone use the awesome sap house amenities for free? There is absolutely no reason to expect that of someone. Steve, Tom and Dave are already very generous guys, but I mean come on!

Not to mention that you guys would engulf a whole course. If you chose a public course, what are you going to do about casual golfers? There's going to be groups on all 18 holes already, I personally think paying $4 is WELL worth not having to deal with casuals making the rounds even slower!

I think I am the only one who sees the big picture here! Does anyone else realize that the traffic going to Maple that day would be so minute due to TC Finals for both A and B both playing on the 14th if we didn't have the finals there? Who would be there, a couple handfulls of people who don't play in TC? $400 seems WAY overpriced.

IFF we have no other option, I think the $400 come out of the dues and not our pockets.

Dude, you seriously have no clue what you're talking about. There are a ton of people that play MH, especially on a nice weekend day. Hell, I was there yesterday and there were casuals playing on a Wednesday afternoon! $4 a person (which is more than 1/2 price) seems WAY overpriced to you?! Must be nice to be you and 60% off is a ripoff!

So according to NoHo all Maine and pay to play courses are out. Then all courses of the teams you are competing against are out. What does that leave? Good luck trying to find a course that no one plays on the weekend!

[Rick Mahoney]

So, Kelly isn't a girl?

[Josh Connor]

Very well done Mr Jackson, thanks for taking the time to put together such a well thought out proposal/offering. Played a nice round on the whites last night and the course is looking/playing awesome.

[Kelly Conroy]

Dave,
I don't think you are familiar with the definition of hosting. Asking us to pay $400 is not hosting. Plus shutting down Maple for one day would absolutely not cost you $400. There is no way that $400 gets put into Maple in one day for greens fees...come on man!

I don't think you understand the word hosting!

a person, place, company, or the like, that provides services, resources, etc., as for a convention or sporting event: Our city would like to serve as host for the next Winter Olympics.

I'm pretty sure you're confusing hosting with donating...

Do you really expect a business to shut down operations for a whole day, close the course to the public, let everyone use the awesome sap house amenities for free? There is absolutely no reason to expect that of someone. Steve, Tom and Dave are already very generous guys, but I mean come on!

Not to mention that you guys would engulf a whole course. If you chose a public course, what are you going to do about casual golfers? There's going to be groups on all 18 holes already, I personally think paying $4 is WELL worth not having to deal with casuals making the rounds even slower!

I think I am the only one who sees the big picture here! Does anyone else realize that the traffic going to Maple that day would be so minute due to TC Finals for both A and B both playing on the 14th if we didn't have the finals there? Who would be there, a couple handfulls of people who don't play in TC? $400 seems WAY overpriced.

IFF we have no other option, I think the $400 come out of the dues and not our pockets.

Dude, you seriously have no clue what you're talking about. There are a ton of people that play MH, especially on a nice weekend day. Hell, I was there yesterday and there were casuals playing on a Wednesday afternoon! $4 a person (which is more than 1/2 price) seems WAY overpriced to you?! Must be nice to be you and 60% off is a ripoff!

So according to NoHo all Maine and pay to play courses are out. Then all courses of the teams you are competing against are out. What does that leave? Good luck trying to find a course that no one plays on the weekend!

1. First of all I could care less about using the sap house, but if we are paying for the course I would expect it to be available FOR FREE.

2. I don't think YOU understand the word hosting. To use your example that would be like professional teams having to pay to play when they are away.

3. I said $200 was an adequate price for the compensation of shutting down the course.

4. What the hell do you think is going to happen at West Thompson for the lower B finals? That is a public course and I am sure they will be fine.

5. The problem I have with the $400 is the lack of information that was provided when this discussion of a neutral site was initiated. Nothing was said about any $400 to play there.

6. Why don't you worry about the A pool. I am just stating my opinion for MY finals and where MY team's money is going, and quite frankly I am entitled.

[Kelly Conroy]

So, Kelly isn't a girl?

That was funny when we were in grammar school.

[Steve Solbo]

6. Why don't you worry about the A pool. I am just stating my opinion for MY finals and where MY team's money is going, and quite frankly I am entitled.

Likely because he runs the league and other teams are inquiring about what the B pool is going to do... Todd should just say screw it, and let the B pool captains vote. Democracy!

[Kelly Conroy]

6. Why don't you worry about the A pool. I am just stating my opinion for MY finals and where MY team's money is going, and quite frankly I am entitled.

Likely because he runs the league and other teams are inquiring about what the B pool is going to do... Todd should just say screw it, and let the B pool captains vote. Democracy!

I agree.

[Rick Mahoney]

So, Kelly isn't a girl?

That was funny when we were in grammar school.

Ahh, it's still funny and I bet grammar school ain't the last time you heard it. I once met a man named Adrian Miranda. Man, was he bitter. I am really not trying to twist panties any more than they already are. Not sure who on your team you are defending so vehemently over $66.66, not sure if they want you to be their champion, captain. But you're speaking for them, I am just in a forum having fun. Obviously I just don't know you.

I think I see captains vote for MH 3-1 so far.

Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

seemed to fit is all.

I apologize for being wrong and grammar school bullying.

Good Luck in finals. Karma is in flux over all this. I'd be worried.

[Kelly Conroy]

Whatever, I am done with this ish. Charge $800 for all I care.

[jim tufts]

You sure do have a raging period for a dude.

[Derek Libby]

Can we round up the team fee to $69.69?
All those 6's freak me out.

[Steve Solbo]

Can we round up the team fee to $69.69?
All those 6's freak me out.

lol.

[Todd Lapham]

1. First of all I could care less about using the sap house, but if we are paying for the course I would expect it to be available FOR FREE.

First off, it's I couldn't care less. Saying you could care less, means you care more than the minimum. The $400 is including the use of the Sap house, like I said...

2. I don't think YOU understand the word hosting. To use your example that would be like professional teams having to pay to play when they are away.

Dude, I posted the definition of the word...No it wouldn't be anything like a pro team paying to play, actually. It's not even in the same area code. Maple Hill isn't a professional sports team, it's simply a course where two teams chose to play finals. They shouldn't lose out on a whole days revenue because you're going to grace them with your presence.

Do you think the Angels would just let the Yankees and Red Sox play whenever they wanted at their stadium for free?

3. I said $200 was an adequate price for the compensation of shutting down the course.

Based on what? You'd still have to ask your team for more money even if it was $200 and that seems to be your whole point.

4. What the hell do you think is going to happen at West Thompson for the lower B finals? That is a public course and I am sure they will be fine.

I bet it will be an annoyance. I said I'd gladly pay the money to not have that annoyance, which I would.

5. The problem I have with the $400 is the lack of information that was provided when this discussion of a neutral site was initiated. Nothing was said about any $400 to play there.

What lack of information? Everyone knew it was a pay to play course, just like it would have been if TT lost and it was held at Woodland Valley. I think you meant to say your problem was ASSuming it would be free...

6. Why don't you worry about the A pool. I am just stating my opinion for MY finals and where MY team's money is going, and quite frankly I am entitled.

Maybe because I'm the commissioner and I got 4 PMs yesterday asking me to go to the B Pool thread and help straighten everything out. Yes you are entitled to your opinion, just like TT and PHill are entitled to pick the finals location.

[Todd Lapham]

6. Why don't you worry about the A pool. I am just stating my opinion for MY finals and where MY team's money is going, and quite frankly I am entitled.

Likely because he runs the league and other teams are inquiring about what the B pool is going to do... Todd should just say screw it, and let the B pool captains vote. Democracy!

I agree.

They already voted on having the top team pick the finals location. Guess what the top team(s) picked the finals location!

[Jason Toothy]

Thanks Todd

[Dave Jackson]

Thanks Todd

[Dave Jackson]

I'm working on a place for peeps to crash if need be, for a SMALL fee, at a breathtaking property 10-15 minutes from MAple Hill.

[Dave Jackson]

It's at Charlton Woods. In da Woods. Fishing is going off. t's in cabins at a former summer camp.
Inquire about pricing. Awesome place.

[Derek Libby]

I can't speak for the other states, but here in Maine tournament players make up less than 5% of the DG population.
We have a hard time getting some courses to close for tournaments even if we guarantee 90 players. If the weather is nice the finer courses up here are doing 200+ "causal" players a day. Assuming these hard working business owners have the coin to close a course during their busiest days is just as insensitive as assuming everyone has the disposable income to participate in the Team Challenge.

I for one greatly appreciate the generous offer put out by the owners and staff at Maple Hill, thank you.

And..

Why don't you cry about it, cry babies.

[Rob Smith]

Don't worry DLibbz...some people just don't know how a business should be run...we might as well just give everyone they want for free...welfare anyone?

I for one would be glad to pay $6 to play the course if it would help Kelly and his crew show up for Finals.

Anyone else? $6 to play a course like MHill for the day would be fantastic!

So, still my question lingers...$800 going towards?

[jim tufts]

$800 going towards?

tissues

[Daniel Mack]

I gave up on trying to come here and make sense of anything weeks ago, so after checking in I'm not surprised that there's some unsettledness. Looking forward to playing finals at MH, it's a great course. The only thing I'm gunna say about all this before seeing you at finals is...

I'm not sure how much money MH stands to lose from shutting down the course for a day, but I'm pretty sure the revenues from 80+ people on the course and at the pro-shop will make up for it plus some, and I'm sure they know that. Hell, I was planning on dropping $50-$100 on plastic next weekend, I'll most likely head across the street to Jason's on principle. Shame on you, Maple Hill. But I don't fault a business for wanting to make money.

For anyone that isn't happy with playing MH or the fact that it's going to cost money. The truth is, we didn't so much "agree" on a course with Phill. It was more like, that was the only course they suggested and would't agree to play anywhere else we proposed, so that's where we're playing.

FYI - Wickham wouldn't have costed anyone a dime. But whatever, it's done lets move forward. If Wickham wasn't a good enough venue then you have the best one now in MH, don't complain because they want to make some money off it.

[Jason Toothy]

Swing and a miss

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[jim tufts]

For anyone that isn't happy with playing MH or the fact that it's going to cost money. The truth is, we didn't so much "agree" on a course with Phill. It was more like, that was the only course they suggested and would't agree to play anywhere else we proposed, so that's where we're playing.

Congrats on shaving a few more strokes off our scores.

[Jon Gordon]

To everyone that is complaing,

No one is holding a gun to your head so if you dont like it dont go.

[Les Sinnock]

No, Dave has offered the course for $400.00 for the day, which I think is a generous offer. Thanks dave for having us.

Thanks Todd for answering the board. I appreciate your clarity.

I think this will be a great day of golf for everyone. Pray for warm weather, low winds and lots of sun.

Anyone have any ideas for food/drink, or should we all bring our own ? I for one will bring some beer for the masses.

[Josh Connor]

mmmmmmm mass beer..

[Jason Toothy]

Thanks, Les! Beer is good....

[Todd Lion]

rabblerabblerabblerabble!!! rabblerabble!! Rock 'n' Roll! Country! Rock 'n' Roll! Country!!

Harumph!

[Rob Smith]

WE HAVE $800 DOLLARS TO SPEND FOR CTP'S, FOOD, BEER WHATEVER WE WANT....WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THIS MONEY!

I don't like to yell, but all this talk about buying beer seems silly to me. Does anyone have an answer for THIS question?