Rule Poll#1
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Rule Poll#1
Possible Rule for Next Year: Discussion and Possible Penalty.
If A wins, what is the penalty?
If A wins, what is the penalty?
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Joe Yaskis
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yaskis wrote:Once it is over it is over.
The players should not be allowed to throw more shots, but they can hang with the group and cheer their partners on.
talking hole by hole joe, as far as what you are talking about, I think it's up to the group, this past challenge we had a player from the opposing team ask if he could still throw for the remainder of the holes... like 4 left, we said sure. I would leave that decision solely on the group.
granted, if i am deadlocked with someone and there are 3 holes left, I might be inclined to say no.. but that is more of a group decision in my eyes.
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Once a hole is conceded in match play, I'm fine with extra putts.
HOWEVER, you need to consider if that extra putt is going to 1) slow the group/round, or 2) disturb players on other holes. In ball golf, extra putts are pretty much silent.
I also think it's bad karma/sportsmanship to putt from the lie someone just conceded -- but once the hole is conceded, you're welcome to putt from an alternate postion. By moving to an alternate position, you've accepted. And yes, just moving a short distance to one side is weak.
It's also poor sportsmanship to wait for the player to line up his putt, then concede the hole at the last second. At that point, might as well let the person putt out.
Given all those caveats, I'm also OK with TD saying NO practice shots.
HOWEVER, you need to consider if that extra putt is going to 1) slow the group/round, or 2) disturb players on other holes. In ball golf, extra putts are pretty much silent.
I also think it's bad karma/sportsmanship to putt from the lie someone just conceded -- but once the hole is conceded, you're welcome to putt from an alternate postion. By moving to an alternate position, you've accepted. And yes, just moving a short distance to one side is weak.
It's also poor sportsmanship to wait for the player to line up his putt, then concede the hole at the last second. At that point, might as well let the person putt out.
Given all those caveats, I'm also OK with TD saying NO practice shots.
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There is a third option that should be added:
If player A concedes to player B, Player B has the option to take the shot.
Player A has conceded therfore they are done.
This is how I have known the rule and This is what I would vote for.
Both players should not get the extra shots. It is basically a little reward for the person who has won the hole.
If player A concedes to player B, Player B has the option to take the shot.
Player A has conceded therfore they are done.
This is how I have known the rule and This is what I would vote for.
Both players should not get the extra shots. It is basically a little reward for the person who has won the hole.
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No it is not! A reward for having won the hole is the one up you get when you win that hole. Not extra practice.
After a concession, both players should move to the next hole. If the player takes a shot, it counts for that hole or the next if that one is decided already. Why grant practice to the guy who just won a hole?
After a concession, both players should move to the next hole. If the player takes a shot, it counts for that hole or the next if that one is decided already. Why grant practice to the guy who just won a hole?
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For the simple gratification and closure to a well played hole.
Example; You just drove hole 16 at Buff. awesome drive within 30'
Your apponent has thrown OB twice and concedes, Tell me you wouldn't want the chance to bang the putt. You already won the hole so you should be intitled to take the putt.
Also, why then concede? If everyone is so worried about extra practice why would anyone ever concede?
Those are shots you could have played regardless of how many shots it took you.
Example; You just drove hole 16 at Buff. awesome drive within 30'
Your apponent has thrown OB twice and concedes, Tell me you wouldn't want the chance to bang the putt. You already won the hole so you should be intitled to take the putt.
Also, why then concede? If everyone is so worried about extra practice why would anyone ever concede?
Those are shots you could have played regardless of how many shots it took you.
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jack wrote:For the simple gratification and closure to a well played hole.
Example; You just drove hole 16 at Buff. awesome drive within 30'
Your apponent has thrown OB twice and concedes, Tell me you wouldn't want the chance to bang the putt. You already won the hole so you should be intitled to take the putt.
Also, why then concede? If everyone is so worried about extra practice why would anyone ever concede?
Those are shots you could have played regardless of how many shots it took you.
Where is it written that a player MUST accept a conceded hole?
Tell him you don't accept his offer to concede the hole, and continue on until you get the disc in. No harm no foul. Just because someone concedes doesn't mean you have to accept. Since he can't card a score because he picked up, you can take as many shots as you like.
I'm not saying I'm "for" additional shots. As a rule I would always accept a concession on a hole. But I can't see where someone has to accept a concession. Another player is not in control of my game,..I am. I decide when I'm done throwing shots as long as I'm not currently at higher shot than my opponent and he/she is on the basket. Now that's practice, because the hole is over,..I can't win.
Given Jack's example on Hole 16 at Buff,..I simply say to my opponent, "no thank you" and putt out.
ADDED THOUGHT:
I do think a player should be trying to complete the hole. This doesn't give someone license to make throws while walking to the next tee. Or do something silly like run up to the next tee because he doesn't have the box and throw a practice drive before you get there. To me it's a common sense and etiquette deal. If it was a rule that a player must accept a conceded hole. In Jack's described situation I would ask my opponent if he would like me to concede.
Ace #21 - march 25th - Hole 16 @ tully - Ching Roc
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I see no harm in the player finishing if he wants, more power to him for playing it well. If I conceded the hole I screwed up and I am already thinking about the next hole and getting past it.
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