Win a disc golf course and ski mountian in Maine

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:45 pm

Gene Kent of Eaton Mtn will be holding a mini disc golf putting contest. Entry is subject to change but is looking like $100/each. If they get enough entries the winner gets the entire Eaton Mtn Ski area, campground and disc golf course in Skowhegan,ME turnkey operation. I will post more as this progresses. I am interested to know if any of you would give this contest a try. Post questions here and I will try to answer them.

David Hoey · Post by **David Hoey** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:00 pm

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:50 pm

GregH wrote:Gene Kent of Eaton Mtn will be holding a mini disc golf putting contest.

To clarify, does he mean using mini discs into a mini disc catcher?

What is Gene Kent looking to clear in entry fees?..must be quite a bit to offer up a prize like this

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:36 pm

$500k-600k is the hope right now. This is all priliminary but it will happen. They have never recovered from last years fire and hope to retire to their sailboat and travel.
Yes mini disc(everyone will throw the same type of mini) into a mini 1/5 scale DGA basket. Gene plans on dividing up the country into qualifying regions and bringing the contest to them. Mini's will make traveling easier. The finals will probably be held at Eaton. If any of you have an idea to make this better please share your ideas. Thanks GregH

Dave McHale · Post by **Dave McHale** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:03 pm

they want to raise half a million dollars?!?? OK, first let's get by the fact that entry to this is $100 (something many people would not want to "throw away" on something they dont feel they could win). If we do that, you're still talking about the need for 5,000 participants, all told, into this contest. That would require 56 tournaments ALL at FULL capacity of 90 players to clear the $500k mark. Now consider that, even if you're "bringing tournaments to them", you're still only going to get the people who A)are willing to put up $100 entry AND B)are willing to either deal with selling the property themselves once they've won it or moving to Maine to run the operation.

GFL to them, but I dont see this being a viable concept in the slightest.

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:55 pm

Thanks for the tirade Dave but read my post it is a putting contest not a tournament. You also have no idea what the mountain is worth. Yes it will still take 5000 people but we are not limited to disc golfers. The big money will come from skiers and businees people that have more disposable income than most disc golfers. Still $100 is steep but the 2005 accessment for the land and mountain was 2.3 million dollars. GFL to you too. GregH

Dave McHale · Post by **Dave McHale** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:35 pm

read the post that you edited after I wrote my post? not saying it doesnt say the same or similar to what it did, but sorry if that makes me raise an eyebrow. and i wouldnt call what i wrote a "tirade" :roll:

Still best of luck to em, but I'm entitled to my opinion that I think the money they're going for is quite a bit out of reach

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:08 pm

look at the time and only one edit Dave! The edit was the bold print. Hopefully somebody read it. Now you are calling me a liar. That sucks Dave. I sent you how I really feel in 2 word pm. I edited this to Dave. 3 including the subject. You may be right about the money though but they have nothing to lose at this point. And this is a minimal investment all things considered. I didn't get to read the end the first time. Tirade, what does it mean anyway. What's less than a tirade but more than constructive criticisim? Post #3 proves I did not edit my original post except to make one part bold. Dave, you live here but you don't read very well.

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:03 pm

Josh, Is there any way to confirm that the only edit to my original post was making mini disc golf putting contest bold? Thanks and sorry for the hassle. Got a hundred I can borrow? It may come with a big interest payment

I have my answer to the accusation Dave made in post #3. I am still curious if you could find my original post Josh. Thanks

boru · Post by **boru** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:46 am

GregH wrote:The big money will come from skiers and businees people that have more disposable income than most disc golfers ... the 2005 accessment for the land and mountain was 2.3 million dollars.

Why doesn't he just try to sell it?

This is a cool idea, but it's going to present some huge logistical challenges. Has Gene researched the legality of doing something like this? It might be banned under the gambling laws of many states. Also, it would seem to me that he's bound to attract people who will enter, lose, and then sue because some aspect of the contest "isn't fair".

If the land is actually worth $2.3 million, then $500-600k is an incredible bargain. Many developers might see it that way too. Maybe Gene could sell the property cheap with the stipulation that the new owner operate and maintain a public disc golf course there (alongside whatever else they do with it). But still, he should try for at least $1 million.

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:00 am

GregH wrote:They have never recovered from last years fire and hope to retire to their sailboat and travel.

Just curious, what was the fire all about? Is the place still damaged or do u mean that they fixed the damage from a fire and are now financially strapped?

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:41 am

A smaller lodge and maintenance building were built after the fire. As Gene progresses he will have a website up with pictures and details. Besides trying to help a friend I have no financial interest in this contest or Eaton Mountain. It is beautiful up there though. GregH

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:42 am

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Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:37 am

Solbo, I want to thank you and Dave for the quality additions and suggestions you have come up with for this contest. I am not running the contest. All of the details are not worked out yet. What is so hard about this concept? It is done all the time for a number of things. Usually it is an essay contest. Knowing frisbee players the way I do, I knew an essay would not be a good way to do this. We are looking for a good way to do this that is fair. Nothing is etched in stone. I have my doubts too. If you actually read my posts you and Dave would have seen this. Solbo please introduce yourself to me sometime. I always love to meet new frisbee players that contribute so positively to the sport. Dave please reread my PM and then send it to Solbo. Thanks again for the contibution. GregH

everyone else

You mean Dave and you so far.

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:54 am

Boru, I was not clear that the accessment was for taxes which we know is always inflated. The mountain has been for sale for 8 years now. The asking price is 700K and is negotiable. As far as the legality of it, I am not sure. I do know a General Store here in Maine did this recently and I did not hear of any problems and they raised almost 300k. It was publicized on the news also. I will try to find the article and link it here. As always I love posting here on this site. Back to music I guess.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:44 pm

BUMP!..

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:50 pm

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Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:54 pm

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Drew Smith · Post by **Drew Smith** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:07 pm

dmchale wrote:GFL to them, but I dont see this being a viable concept in the slightest.

1) None of your business

B) It doesn't matter how you see it

Finally) Way to support the Kents! you go with your bad self...

5) Didn't your mother ever teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say...?

iiiix) You are a nice guy. Surprised to see this from you.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:21 pm

Deleted , by my choosing, sick of dealing with immature 40 somethings with no life.

Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:31 pm

So I come on here with this and get called a liar and have a new slammer in Solbo. I love this place. I do have an interest in this but not a financial one. Why to conspiracy theories? Gene Kent has been a friend to me and many others here for many years. Contribute with an idea instead of the crap you spewed. All you did was slam. You do not seem like a nice person to me and I again thank you for being such great feedback. Note my edit to this post was changing had to has.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:36 pm

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Dave McHale · Post by **Dave McHale** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:39 pm

Drew wrote:1) None of your business

B) It doesn't matter how you see it

Finally) Way to support the Kents! you go with your bad self...

5) Didn't your mother ever teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say...?

iiiix) You are a nice guy. Surprised to see this from you.

1) As solbo said, i dont see how it's none of my business considering the concept was brought to the forums

B) You're free to think that. Just as I'm free to think what I do about the concept

Finally) I dont see how this is me "not supporting the Kents". It's me saying the proposed idea doesnt seem like a sound one. If they're in financial trouble and wish to sell the property, that's their deal. But if thinking that a bad idea is bad means I'm "not supporting them", then fine I guess you could put it that way.

5) My mother also told me to try and help others, which I feel is upheld by pointing out what I see are problems with the proposed idea

iiiix) I really dont see this as me being "not a nice guy". Could I have stated my opinion a little more eloquently? Sure. Does Greg have a right to call me an a**hole and something else the forum bleeped for him in a PM just because I said my piece? Don't think so. I figured we were all adults here but this somehow degenerated into a one-sided flame war (ok, so solbo made it 2-sided

but i've been decidedly quiet on the topic since I didnt want to pour more fuel on the fire)

Want constructive criticism? We're talking about the requirement of 5,000+ people all willing to drop $100 apiece on a disc-based contest. Most disc golfer I know aren't willing to put up $100 for entry to any sort of event, especially not one that has a single prize going only to the top winner. Granted, we're talking about a piece of land that's said to be worth over $2M. But you then get into the semantics of what I stated earlier, which is that you either have to depend on a local to win it, or someone not from the area who's willing to sell the property themselves or relocate to the area to take over operations. Greg says he feels skiiers and others with disposable income would be a target demographic to have participate in the contest. People with that kind of money A)will have no interest in dropping so much money on a disc-related contest and B)for that kind of cash will be looking for a tax writeoff, which it definitely is not. You also have the issue of this type of contest potentially not being legal in some areas. And we're also back to the idea that you need 5,000+ people to participate in this in order to hit the low end of the target money raised.

If they want to seriously get rid of the property and are willing to part with it for $700k, I dont see why it doesnt just get listed for that (since it's 1/3 of the said value) and call it done. The whole proposal to have someone win the property is a train wreck waiting to happen (what happens if/when you get 200 people to bite and the whole thing dies out with no more interest? what then?) and it surprises me that me and solbo seem to be the only two who thing this thing is more "holes" than substance.

This is all my opinion. If someone doesn't like it, that's fine and hey they're free to say so and free to say why they feel I'm wrong. But the personal attacks, name calling, and cursing are completely uncalled for and childish.

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:46 pm

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Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:58 pm

Dave, I called you an Ahole and a phuck because of the editing issue not your response. I would say that you turned this into a flamewar not me. I replied to your response in the thread. As I said I will find examples of how this has worked for others and post them here.

The big money will come from skiers and business people

Guess you missed this one. Not enough people; you return the entries. Solbo anytime pal. GregH

discglfr05 · Post by **discglfr05** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:00 pm

mountains are fun

Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:04 pm

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Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:12 pm

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Steve Solbo · Post by **Steve Solbo** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:13 pm

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Greg Hinkley · Post by **Greg Hinkley** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:14 pm

Solbo, Please give me one example of how any of your posts were constructive. Man, I had forgotten just how much this stuff gets the old adrenaline pumping. Steve I am 6'1 and 140 maybe. Still no time? GregH

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