First Run?

[Doug Mahar]

What does it mean when a disc is described as "first run?"
Just what it sounds like? The first run of a certain design? If so, what makes that cooler than a second run?

I was shopping for discs and saw "first run, no extra cost"

[Karl Molitoris]

WAY back (when the dinosaurs first roamed the earth), disc makers - while dabbling with changes in disc molds - would think they'd come up with "a goodie" and want to go into production. But since this was still not rocket science and they didn't want to invest too much into something they weren't totally confident would "go over" (with the masses), they would limit the numbers made. They called these the "first run" (of that mold). Second run was usually listed as such also. And the first would fly differently than the second (maybe more over stable, maybe less over stable, etc.). By the third usually the inconsistencies had been worked out and supposedly all discs made with that mold were the same. We know now that this is not true . That the first run is "better" than any other mold is debatable. Better for what?

The disc mfr'ers got wind of this and 'went with it'...the concept of supply and demand, i.e. make less, charge more, hold them back, make people salivate for them, etc. (humans being TOTALLY susceptable to marketing ploys) and gobble them up. We have met the enemy and they are we.

If you're a disc collector, you have to go with the concept and pay the extra. In reality, ANY disc (unless it's warped ) is round and 'can work'.

Karl

[Jaxon Sheehy]

i'm pretty sure that Innova's first run star stamp makes discs fly farther and better- which is why they cost more.

[Matt Grayum]

i'm pretty sure that Innova's first run star stamp makes discs fly farther and better- which is why they cost more.

The more money you spend, the further they will fly. I was wondering why I was topping out at 400'. The star stamp does indicate the first run and could and probably does mean that the rest won't be/fly the same but not sure it means further flight. I guess a first run could fly further but not in all cases.

[Jeff Burrows]

I'm pretty sure that it actually is the stamp that makes these 1st run discs more confident and fly farther, not the mold. So if you were to take the stamp off and dye it yourself, it might be prettier but definately won't fly as far.
1st run discs also tend to hit more trees once their stamp is gone. Someone told me it's because without the star on their belly that makes them cool, they get depressed and have no reason to live. Kind of like that Dr. Seusse book "The Sneetches", where all the cool and confident sneetches have stars on their bellies.