Expanding Rosters

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:28 am

1. Keep it the same. 15 guys and a woman.

2. Add 4 roster spots for reserves. Still have to play 3 matches to qualify for finals.

Please keep in mind numbers for finals, I just don't want it to be a shock to teams that they may have to sit half there team at finals.

I'll be separating A and B pool votes.

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:28 am

Results so far:

Eric Maurer · Post by **Eric Maurer** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:29 am

Keep it the same.

Dave Hickson · Post by **Dave Hickson** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:54 am

Add 4 alternates

Steven Dakai · Post by **Steven Dakai** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:32 pm

Add 4

Jason Toothy · Post by **Jason Toothy** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:41 pm

option 2. Add 4

Adam Whitten · Post by **Adam Whitten** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:03 pm

Option 2

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:05 pm

add 4

Keith Burtt · Post by **Keith Burtt** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:10 pm

adding 4 is ok with maple, as long as the womans spot is rotating

Pete Violet · Post by **Pete Violet** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:22 pm

Add 4 alternates.

2 questions though:

are there still roster moves like before?

Like keith said, is the woman spot still rotating?

Dave Hickson · Post by **Dave Hickson** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:28 pm

I would say 4 alt spots with rotating girl (girls can only play for 1 team) sub alts as needed. Alts should be listed as alts on roster though they can be used as needed. Your players still needs to play 3 challenges to qualify for finals.

Kory Roy · Post by **Kory Roy** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:35 pm

if we add 4 spots could all 20 players play in any givin challenge or would it still be a max of 16 per challenge just curious? i would vote for expansion either way.

Dave Hickson · Post by **Dave Hickson** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:33 am

Only 16 per challenge.

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:36 am

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:19 am

so we have 3 A pool yes votes..?

2 more its official..?

Wick,Burgess,CapL,Nasa,Cran no votes

TR,WV,BL yes

would love to know soon...TR has had major roster issues this year..wanna get this team set to start dealing with other stuff

Pete Charron · Post by **Pete Charron** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:30 pm

Steven Dakai · Post by **Steven Dakai** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:29 pm

Wel...that was a slam dunk.

Pete Charron · Post by **Pete Charron** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:08 pm

hell yeah! I feel a small sense of communal success...

Pete Violet · Post by **Pete Violet** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:24 pm

Still looking for a little clarification...

Are we thinking you bring 16 to a challenge and the 4 alternates are not eligible unless a player can't play.

~~ Or ~~

a team can bring all 20 and play some for singles and some for dubs to get all qualified.

Not looking for loopholes -- just want to be sure my team and its alternates know what to expect.

Steven Dakai · Post by **Steven Dakai** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:49 am

I think it shouldnt matter. B pool anyway.

Dave Hickson · Post by **Dave Hickson** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:17 am

Why call them alternates if there not alternates. If I had all 20 players show up for a TC I would play my 16 man roster then have my alternates play a round to determine there pecking order. I thought the purpose of having 4 alternate spots was to increase the chances of having 16 players every time.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:26 am

i like the 16..with 20 on roster

it leaves room for say example

a long time player has to work afar,gets injured..then he can be on roster w/o having to add a guy then say well he is back so your gone

allows for newer player to get a tast that can't commit..allows teams to have 2 girls so never an issue
allows for some older guy who can only play 1 event to play....allows for a team in playoff hunt to maybe strengthen team down the stretch

all in all just allows for some coaching to actually mean a lil..how ya manage and develop your team and what direction ya go with those spots

trust me all of those situations can/have happened

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:33 am

My question would then be, could you potentially have all 20 on the team qualify for finals? I know there may be limitations on #'s during each round at finals, but could they all potentially qualify?

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:48 am

I believe todd said they still need three for finals..so I would assume so

Todd Lapham · Post by **Todd Lapham** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:16 am

I don't really know what to think of the alternates, I guess that's something we need to discuss to get some clarification.

If they are just like anyone else on the team, then they aren't really alternates and it's just expanding to 20.

I was under the assumption that the purpose of the alternates was for them to be available to be plugged into a match if a team was having trouble fielding numbers without it being counted as a roster move. Were others thinking differently?

Joseph Mason Proud, III · Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:46 am

No to expansion

Pete Violet · Post by **Pete Violet** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:19 am

This is why I want to clarify.

We are for it either way.

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:39 am

Todd Lapham wrote:I was under the assumption that the purpose of the alternates was for them to be available to be plugged into a match if a team was having trouble fielding numbers without it being counted as a roster move. Were others thinking differently?

With that thinking, couldn't the 4 alternates compete in the required 3 challenges to make finals?

Week 1: Only able to get 12 of 16 to the match. Call on all 4 alternates.
Week 2: A different set of 4 players can't make it. Call on all 4 alternates.
Week 3: Another, different set of 4 players can't make it. Call on all 4 alternates.

Dave Hickson · Post by **Dave Hickson** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:13 pm

Finals should be limited to 16 per team. Even if you qualify 20.

Kory Roy · Post by **Kory Roy** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:12 pm

disagree, if all 20 qualify for finals all 20 should be eligible to play one of the 2 rds at finals just my opinion, after all they did put in the required challenges

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