Official Tournament Information

Blaze Konefal · Post by **Blaze Konefal** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:11 am

The date is Saturday, October 22, 2011. The course is The Woods At Beauty Hill, 557 Beauty Hill Road, Barnstead,NH. 03255
The registration fee due to a great influx of sponsors will be only $13, payable only at the tournament.
Please sign in and register/pay by 9:00 AM. In case of openings, a wait list starting at 7 am will be kept for players who qualified for points, but did not get invited.
Player meeting around 9:15
I hope to begin play around 9:30.
Free lunch is being provided by Lisa, the owner. it will consist of many different hearty homemade soups and rolls. Some of those soups are: Clam Chowder, Vegetarian Tortalini Soup, Vegan Borscht, Tuscan Soup(sausage,potatoes,kale) As those who have been to past Beauty Hill Tournaments know, the food will be GREAT! There will be some burgers, but not enough for everyone. Coffee in the morning and cookies later on.
Player package will be a custom disc, mini-disc, a goodies bag, a locally grown pumpkin, a NEFA progam listing sponsors and point winners, written course rules, $5 gift certificate to the online disc shop by Community Disc Golf, a glow stick bracelet.
There will be 72 invited players, so foursomes will be set up.
All divisions will play from Blue tees, except MA3(Rec) and FW2 who will use white tees.
There will be some vendors present. We expect to have a massage person at noon, good way to get those kinks out for the second round. There will be a fee for the massage.
Some camping on site will be allowed, but you will need to contact Lisa at 603-724-4027 as she has some restrictions. There are several campsites neaby as well.

Beauty Hill is located off Route 28. From Concord take I-393 East, Route 4,9 East until the Epsom traffice circle, then head North on Route 28. Sometimes GPS's will try and send you over a non-existant road, so make sure you are coming via Route 28.
In case of poor weather, we have a large barn which we can partially heat if it gets really cold. We may also have a campfire.

As this is the Granite State, trophies of engraved granite will be given for 1,2,3 places.
Ties for First place will be a sudden death playoff on holes 16,12,18. A CTP would then be used if necessary (hole 18 orange tee).
Ties for 2nd or 3rd will be a CTP throwoff to decide who gets the trophy.
Pros will get cash, amateurs will get Funny money to our disc golf store run by Community Disc Golf. They will have an on-line store up real soon.

You may enter our pumpkin decorating contest. Please bring markers if you are interested.

We will have an optional ACE pot costing $2. If no winners, we will have a CTP throwoff.
We will have a CTP pot for $2. It will be from the 18th Orange tee at the end of the tournament.
There will be various CTP's as part of the tournament thanks to sponsors. They will be announced at the begining of the tournament.

We have plenty of parking.

If you have any questions, please call me at 603-568-6749
Blaze Konefa - TD
NH NEFA Representative
NEFA Scheduler

PS You may want to look at the "How to Play Beauty Hill" thread as well.

Brad Ayotte · Post by **Brad Ayotte** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:37 am

Thnak you for this info and for the tourney in advance... do we have any hotels nearby?

Blaze Konefal · Post by **Blaze Konefal** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:27 am

Hotels are best found in Concord. There is the Red Roof Inn in Loudon as well.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:33 am

Blaze Konefal wrote:There is the Red Roof Inn in Loudon as well.

20% OFF WITH YOUR PDGA MEMBERSHIP. VIP CODE IS ON THE BACK OF YOUR CARD.

Troy Dietrich · Post by **Troy Dietrich** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:47 pm

Sooo....Rick Williams who finished 3rd in MM1, and would have been a lock for an invite in that division, get's shut out of finals becuase he also opted to play in enough tourneys to qualify in MPG? Somehow this doesn't seem right in my mind. We do want to encourage players to move up to higher divisions as they improve correct?

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:26 pm

Troy Dietrich wrote:Sooo....Rick Williams who finished 3rd in MM1, and would have been a lock for an invite in that division, get's shut out of finals becuase he also opted to play in enough tourneys to qualify in MPG? Somehow this doesn't seem right in my mind. We do want to encourage players to move up to higher divisions as they improve correct?

It's so hard to forsee these things at the beginning of the season and so many factors can change the outcome. Rick has a personal "rule" of his, regarding where he plays in PDGA events and he's done this for years. He's played MPG and MPM before.

Yes, Rick is bummed that he's out but he's still gonna be there.

Troy Dietrich · Post by **Troy Dietrich** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:50 pm

If my memory serves me. I seem to recall that during this process during last years finals people weren't removed from lower divisions unless they got in, in the higher qualified divisions.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:52 pm

Troy Dietrich wrote:If my memory serves me. I seem to recall that during this process during last years finals people weren't removed from lower divisions unless they got in, in the higher qualified divisions.

Points Charter was changed this year to elminate the shuffling.

Troy Dietrich · Post by **Troy Dietrich** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:21 pm

I thought it was changed to clarify the hierarchy of the divisions as there seemed to be some grey area amongst the gender & age protected ones and where they fit in.

This should probably be a discussion for next year, but I think the charter should have read;

Players who qualify for the Finals in more than one division must play in the highest division they qualify in (Change to: they're invited in), according to the following hierarchy: Pro Open, Pro Master, Pro Grandmaster, Pro Women, Advanced Men, Advanced Master, Advanced Women, Intermediate Men, Intermediate Women, and Recreational.

NEFA is responsible for inviting the qualifying players, and for providing the divisional payouts.

Forget about this specific instance. As it stands if a player finishing top five in AM1 decides to try and move up and finished DFL in every attempt at pro open they'd lose their chance to play at finals. That doesn't make sense to me. I would have thought the intent behind being forced to play in the highest qualifying division is to prevent sandbagging...not penalize a player for trying to move up.

BTW, Jeff...feel free to split this thing off and move it to NEFA politics or something. I started this conversation in the wrong place and it's drifting way off from the thread topic.

Matt Stroika · Post by **Matt Stroika** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:04 pm

Troy Dietrich wrote:Sooo....Rick Williams who finished 3rd in MM1, and would have been a lock for an invite in that division, get's shut out of finals becuase he also opted to play in enough tourneys to qualify in MPG? Somehow this doesn't seem right in my mind. We do want to encourage players to move up to higher divisions as they improve correct?

Rick should quit NEFA.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:09 pm

Matt Stroika wrote:
Troy Dietrich wrote:Sooo....Rick Williams who finished 3rd in MM1, and would have been a lock for an invite in that division, get's shut out of finals becuase he also opted to play in enough tourneys to qualify in MPG? Somehow this doesn't seem right in my mind. We do want to encourage players to move up to higher divisions as they improve correct?

Rick should quit NEFA.

When Rick dies, his ashes will be molded into freestyle disc with a NEFA stamp.

Mike Connell · Post by **Mike Connell** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:15 pm

Matt Stroika wrote:
Troy Dietrich wrote:Sooo....Rick Williams who finished 3rd in MM1, and would have been a lock for an invite in that division, get's shut out of finals becuase he also opted to play in enough tourneys to qualify in MPG? Somehow this doesn't seem right in my mind. We do want to encourage players to move up to higher divisions as they improve correct?

Rick should quit NEFA.

He can't. He still has a vacation home to pay off.

(do I really need a smiley?)

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:18 pm

Mike Connell wrote:
Matt Stroika wrote:
Troy Dietrich wrote:Sooo....Rick Williams who finished 3rd in MM1, and would have been a lock for an invite in that division, get's shut out of finals becuase he also opted to play in enough tourneys to qualify in MPG? Somehow this doesn't seem right in my mind. We do want to encourage players to move up to higher divisions as they improve correct?

Rick should quit NEFA.

He can't. He still has a vacation home to pay off.

(do I really need a smiley?)

I will give ya a :lol:

cuz that was a good joke

3rd Man in on this comedy tour

Rich Reilly · Post by **Rich Reilly** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:48 pm

What I don't understand is how the am1 Division has over 20 invites and a Pro Grand Masters Division only has 5 invites. Is there a ratio used for how many from each division gets invited?

Rick, I feel your pain! We both want to play!
I planned all my events to get to the finals, then found out that only 5 people were invited.

Oh well, I wish everyone who got invited the best of luck!

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:56 pm

Rich Reilly wrote:What I don't understand is how the am1 Division has over 20 invites and a Pro Grand Masters Division only has 5 invites. Is there a ratio used for how many from each division gets invited?

Rick Williams wrote:Total number of players qualified is 129. Total in the finals is 72. So 72/129 = 0.558

The number of players qualified in each division is multiplied by 0.558 to get the number invited to the finals. For example, in Pro Open there are 25 players qualified. 25 x 0.558 = 14

Ken Gary · Post by **Ken Gary** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:08 pm

Rick Williams wrote:Total number of players qualified is 129. Total in the finals is 72. So 72/129 = 0.558

The number of players qualified in each division is multiplied by 0.558 to get the number invited to the finals. For example, in Pro Open there are 25 players qualified. 25 x 0.558 = 14

This is one way to calculate the breakdown.

Another option is to base it on the participation of each division across the entire points series. Since each player pays in $1, you could look at the total $$ paid in per division and base the number of participants from each divsion on the % of $$ that that division paid into the total and then allocate each division's share of the total player pool (72).

Not sure if it would change anything.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:10 pm

If the correct numbers r plugged in 8-)

i also believe 2x events were counted as 2events played in am1

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:11 pm

Ken Gary wrote:This is one way to calculate the breakdown.

Another option is to base it on the participation of each division across the entire points series. Since each player pays in $1, you could look at the total $$ paid in per division and base the number of participants from each divsion on the % of $$ that that division paid into the total and then allocate each division's share of the total player pool (72).

Not sure if it would change anything.

The divisions that require more events to get qualified would have more invites to Finals.

Interesting concept though.

Blaze Konefal · Post by **Blaze Konefal** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:13 am

I am assigning foursomes by point ranking within divisions.
MPO are holes 1-4
MPM hole 5
MPG hole 6,5
MA1 holes 7-11,16
MM1 hole 12,4
FW1 hole 18
MA2 holes 13-16
FW2 hole 17
MA3 hole 17
There might be some last minute changes the day of the tournament depending on noshows and waitlist as I will try and keep players in a division together.

Saw quite a few players this windy weekend! Weather is looking good!

Jeni Desrosiers · Post by **Jeni Desrosiers** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:13 am

Having trouble finding hotels close to course. Any suggestions?

Derek Brazauskas · Post by **Derek Brazauskas** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:30 am

Blaze Konefal wrote:Hotels are best found in Concord. There is the Red Roof Inn in Loudon as well.

Jeni Desrosiers · Post by **Jeni Desrosiers** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:56 am

Yeah no where I call though has Saturday availability. Only Friday.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:04 am

Manchester is about 45-50 min south of the course and looks to have a bunch of hotels.

North on I-93 is the Northfield/Belmont area...... there's a few hotels there also.
About 30 min from the course.

Brad Harris · Post by **Brad Harris** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:31 am

Jeff Wiechowski wrote:Manchester is about 45-50 min south of the course and looks to have a bunch of hotels.

I live right outside Manchester and it's about an hour to get to the course. It's not a bad commute, particularly with no traffic on a Saturday morning, but Concord will definitely be closer.

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:45 am

2011 Finals weather forecast at Beauty Hill

James Sweat · Post by **James Sweat** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:02 pm

Any restrictions on beer? Not to get anyones hopes up but BACHNEIN may sponsor a keg.

Chris Young · Post by **Chris Young** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:11 pm

YEAH Bachnein!!!!! A bunch of us are camping Sat night at Beauty Hill and playing a $$ round Sunday at 10am at Pinnacle if anyone wants to join.

Blaze Konefal · Post by **Blaze Konefal** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:01 pm

Sorry guys, but no go on the keg. Owner's request.
Thanks for respecting her decision.
Blaze
TD

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:21 pm

no updates on champs? come on Iphone peeps

Jeff Wiechowski · Post by **Jeff Wiechowski** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:15 pm

WOO HOO !!!
DisCap Victory !!!!!
Greg Kurtz edges out Davis Johnson by one stroke for the GM win !!!!

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