Solid schedules for 2012/13....

[jim tufts]

I'm sure this has been discussed, but it would be pretty hard for me to search and rectify a discussion on this. I'm amused in a Jack Nicholson/The Shining sort of way.

It's laughable to see these dates being molded. "top player"'s sister is getting her teeth cleaned at 4pm that day, we can't do that day. "so and so" is playing another tourney somewhere, can't do that day. My cat's birthday, reschedule.

Setting the dates (perhaps an entire weekend for each date?) would put both teams involved at an equal advantage and curb the 10 page negotiations, no?

I mean, this IS what other sports leagues do... right?

[Shawn Mullen]

I'd love to see a set in stone schedule. That way I can plan to be at the matches, and not have to make arrangements with limited time. I really think this would be easier for players with kids, jobs and other things going on. They could arrange for child care, time off whatever once they recieve their teams schedule. Set a payment and registration deadline months in advance (June/Julyish). Make the schedule, post it. Then area ice bowls, tourneys, charity events can see that informaiton and schedule around it. It seems like a winwin to me.

The TC has really turned into an organized sports league, and may need to be treated like one in the future. An organized sports league would never let teams pick when they want to play their matches.....why, because it doesn't work. Just read all of the threads about teams having a hard time scheduling, and picking a place to play. Just tell them when it is and they will make it work.
- organized schedule
- organized playoff / finals structure with a dates times etc.....
- set in advance so people can plan.

The biggest pet peve I had when I was a captian is scheduling with the other team, and picking a course for neautral matches. Just tell us in advance when and where they are. You can't make it, you can't make it. It would really be easier for everyone, you would be able to actually have a plan on the calendar. Right now you have to leave whole months open because you might have a challenge match on one of those days.

I'd be willing to help with any of this stuff. It's what I do for a living, coordinate recreation programs and sports leagues.

[Steven Dakai]

My thoughts:
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Scheduling shouldn't be left to the teams. Play the first weekend of the month, third is rain date. That way we can still plan/attend tournaments & ice bowls and plan weeks out for a match instead of just a couple days notice.

Falls on deaf ears,every time!

[Chris Martin]

I think this is a great idea. Only issue would be REALLY bad weather on the chosen day/weekend, but then again it's winter golf in New England so toughen up. Would need to be scheduled around ice bowls too.

[jim tufts]

Weather is an issue with life no matter how you schedule it (life)....

[Shawn Mullen]

I think this is a great idea. Only issue would be REALLY bad weather on the chosen day/weekend, but then again it's winter golf in New England so toughen up. Would need to be scheduled around ice bowls too.

If a schedule were set early enough, july for example, that leaves plenty of time for other events to schedule around those dates. Then you get the best of both worlds. A set schedule for tournaments and team challenges, more attendance at ice bowls, and a whole lot less of a headache.

[Chris Martin]

I think this is a great idea. Only issue would be REALLY bad weather on the chosen day/weekend, but then again it's winter golf in New England so toughen up. Would need to be scheduled around ice bowls too.

If a schedule were set early enough, july for example, that leaves plenty of time for other events to schedule around those dates. Then you get the best of both worlds. A set schedule for tournaments and team challenges, more attendance at ice bowls, and a whole lot less of a headache.

Agree 100%.

[Eric Kevorkian]

Mullen step AWAY from the computer...you're making WAY too much sense.

[Matt Stroika]

What if there was a scheduling mediator that both captains spoke to in instances where an agreement cannot be quickly reached? Both captains give thier dates (min of 3) and the mediators say is final barring rescheduling due to weather. With the number of players on each team, there is no reason that both teams shouldnt be able to come up with at least 8-10 on any Sat or Sun. Don't care if you best player can't make it or if your woman is not qualified. Too bad.

[Matt Stroika]

I think this is a great idea. Only issue would be REALLY bad weather on the chosen day/weekend, but then again it's winter golf in New England so toughen up. Would need to be scheduled around ice bowls too.

If a schedule were set early enough, july for example, that leaves plenty of time for other events to schedule around those dates. Then you get the best of both worlds. A set schedule for tournaments and team challenges, more attendance at ice bowls, and a whole lot less of a headache.

I am always going to disagree with a set schedule. Why would you want to set dates for 'no fly zones' in 5 states when realistically the captains should be working the schedule around their local tournaments?

[Shawn Mullen]

I think this is a great idea. Only issue would be REALLY bad weather on the chosen day/weekend, but then again it's winter golf in New England so toughen up. Would need to be scheduled around ice bowls too.

If a schedule were set early enough, july for example, that leaves plenty of time for other events to schedule around those dates. Then you get the best of both worlds. A set schedule for tournaments and team challenges, more attendance at ice bowls, and a whole lot less of a headache.

I am always going to disagree with a set schedule. Why would you want to set dates for 'no fly zones' in 5 states when realistically the captains should be working the schedule around their local tournaments?

That's what the capts are supposed to do, but that doesn't seem to be working. It's turning into "my best player can't play on sundays, one of our players is on vacation or at another event". When you are on a team you show up when your team plays, a player only need to be at 3 of the team's matches to qualify.

I don't think it's too much to ask to just set aside one weekend a month for team challenges(first wknd of the month for example). We are already doing that, we just currently have no idea what weekend it's going to be. Players already have to commit to being at the matches, it just seems a lot easier to know in advance when the matches are going to be so a person can plan the rest of their life.

[jim tufts]

(Y) - 6
(N) - 1

[Stephen Ditter]

yes to the set schedule



-ditterman

[Luke Adolph]

Add another yes for a set schedule. Doesn't always have to be a Saturday or Sunday. October could be 1st Saturday and November could be 1st Sunday to give the people who always work on a Sat or Sun a chance to switch around.

[Steven Dakai]

Tell your captains to vote for it! It comes up every year and gets voted down every year. There wont be a vote here,but it will happen on the captains thread.

[Matt Stroika]

The captains just need to stop being biatches and get the job done. If the two teams can meet the min requirements for a given day they should suck it up and play with who they have that day. If the 'oh so important player' had other commitments, maybe they could reconsider knowing their team could use them and make other arrangements.

[Sean Healy]

Add another yes for a set schedule. Doesn't always have to be a Saturday or Sunday. October could be 1st Saturday and November could be 1st Sunday to give the people who always work on a Sat or Sun a chance to switch around.

I vote yes as well. Doesn't even have to be that specific. Just a set weekend and the teams can decide on Sat or Sunday.

[Matt Stroika]

Add another yes for a set schedule. Doesn't always have to be a Saturday or Sunday. October could be 1st Saturday and November could be 1st Sunday to give the people who always work on a Sat or Sun a chance to switch around.

I vote yes as well. Doesn't even have to be that specific. Just a set weekend and the teams can decide on Sat or Sunday.

If that would be the default if no other arrangements could be made between the captains, that would be cool.

[Matt DeAngelis]

The captains just need to stop being biatches and get the job done. If the two teams can meet the min requirements for a given day they should suck it up and play with who they have that day. If the 'oh so important player' had other commitments, maybe they could reconsider knowing their team could use them and make other arrangements.

You are correct. That is how it should be. However, it is not done that way. Which is why a set schedule is needed. Circle complete.

[Scott Howard]

but what if something comes up and I can't make it?

[Matt Buono]

It's all crans fault just kick them out and it will fix this problem ....

[Matt Stroika]

Increased roster sizes and increased geographic region is what ruined the fun of team challenge.

[Matt DeAngelis]

Increased roster sizes and increased geographic region is what ruined the fun of team challenge.

Maybe that is the case for some people. Maybe that is why some people don't play in the team challenge anymore.

[Arty Graustein]

Set schedule is good, but revert back to mimimum 2 challenges played instead of 3 to qualify for finals. Gives those people with families a lot more wiggle room.

[Jim Bobka]

That.

[Steven Dakai]

Ya, thats what kills this every time...good job.

[Mike Cormier]

This problem is probably worse than just scheduling. I grew up playing sports and never had any say in my teams schedule so a set schedule makes sense, you can make it or you can't... Having a 20 man roster but only having to show 12 is a problem. One team shows with 20 and the other with 13 you have 7 on one side sitting each round and that would be worse if they just drove 2 hours to play. It just disenfranchises a whole group of players.... It's a bigger problem and getting bigger because more and more people want to play and I don't have an answer. More teams, smaller, more divisions/regional groupings? IDK

[Dave Hickson]

I don't think we need set schedules. I do think it's a lot easier to find a common date through a phone call between the 2 captains. It is never productive when everybody on the 2 teams want a say on the date. Let's keep things simple for Todd when possible. This is just extra work for him. IMHO

[Dave Hickson]

It's the captains job to make sure he has the players qualified for finals that he needs. Keep the scheduling off line and and let the captains handle it. It's there problem to worry about for y'all. Just show up to play knowing your captain is looking out for everybody. If the captain knows when his players can and can not commit then it should not take more than a phone call or 2 to find a common date.

[Titan Bariloni]

I'd be willing to help with any of this stuff. It's what I do for a living, coordinate recreation programs and sports leagues

Let's keep things simple for Todd when possible. This is just extra work for him. IMHO

Mullen IMO is dedicated to TC and seems pretty savy when it comes to sports in general..if he could set something up why not if its voted on?

It sux to schedule and simple pre dates that rotated sats/suns would be great IMO it would HELP TD's to schedule IB's ect ect rather hurt...I have seen some times when a challenge took many players away from their local IB...here is an idea onto the 2 challenges played for finals...make an exception for Captains to reschedule at an earlier date if they wanted...and maybe also have 1 weeknd day a month scheduled for make up games from drastic weather(not just weather)..as major league teams seem to even get make up dates done rather simply in a pre set schedule