Framingham Course

Nate Spear · Post by **Nate Spear** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:29 am

I just came from a meeting with a Rep of the Park and Rec Department, The PE Director, and the Principal of the Framingham North High School where I made the initial proposal for a new course! Unbelievably, all three have heard of dg, and were very intrigued by the idea, want to hear more, and see a design which I already have in my head and have been working on.
The little used park behind the school is just begging for an 18 hole course and I wanted to put it out here for my fellow NEFA peeps to discuss. I’m trying to fill the void between Worcester area and Boston with a sweet course here in Metro West, currently the black hole of courses in Mass. Any ideas and interest we can generate would be a huge bonus!

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:30 am

Where in Framingham???

I was just discussing with someone yesterday, how there is such a need for a course in the metrowest area. There's nothing between Borderland and Pyramids/Maple Hill.

Steven Dakai · Post by **Steven Dakai** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:40 am

WOW! that will be incredible. Let me know what I can do to help.

Nate Spear · Post by **Nate Spear** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:41 am

The sight is in Saxonville, a village of North Framingham, you can almost hear the Mass Pike from the school that it's behind. I live walking distance from there and it's 18 miles from Devens, 22 Miles from Borderland, and 25 Miles to Pyramids!

Gary Cyr · Post by **Gary Cyr** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:32 pm

could be cool for me. I work in Framingham.

Nate Spear · Post by **Nate Spear** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:37 pm

Anyone interested in having a quick tour, I'd be happy to show you around the site. I'd appreciate some other perspectives on some potential holes, the area lends itself to some really interesting looks, a good amount of water and elevation changes. Shoot me a PM.

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:29 pm

I am 100% in on helping create a framingham course and have framingham residents also on board.

I live in marlborough and can get over to that area easily to help scope it out or do work or anything.

Metrowest so desperately needs a course. Thank you for even making this a possibility!

Charles Edman · Post by **Charles Edman** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:05 pm

I live in Marlborough and I work in Framingham. This is the best news I've heard in weeks. I'm in on any help you need with getting this off the ground.

What park would the course be going into?

Nate Spear · Post by **Nate Spear** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:48 pm

The course would be partly in Winch Park (Park and Rec owned), and partly in a conservation area (owned by the town in some fashion) behind Winch Park that's a kind of no man's land. The property abuts the Sudbury River, a small pond is damned underneath a paved bridge that's only open to foot traffic on one side, and a small casual water stream leads to the River toward the other. The course would play on both sides of the lake, and on the school side of the stream behind the tennis courts.

Charles Edman · Post by **Charles Edman** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:07 pm

That sounds awesome. I know that area. That has the potential to be a legitimately awesome course. Plus its only 10 minutes from where I work and 20 minutes from where I live. This day has taken a significant turn for the better!

Doug Callaghan · Post by **Doug Callaghan** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:36 pm

wtg nate, sounds great. I have family in ashland so im down there alot. Sounds like your next step is making a plan for the park people. Im sure you can get a course designer pro to come take a walkthrough with you.

ill check back for future workdays.

Nate Spear · Post by **Nate Spear** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:55 pm

Thanks Doug, the next step is making sure the conservation commission doesn't have a problem around these water ways and wetlands areas before I go crazy showing them a definitive plan. I'll be sure to be in touch when it's time to dig out a tee box or plant a basket, still lots of ground work to do...

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I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?5aj0jf

Mike Murphy · Post by **Mike Murphy** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:34 pm

have you done an airil map out of the course on like google maps or something like that? stencil out your proposed area before you stomping through swamps.

just thinking over the area in my head we should EASILY be able to fit 18 holes and have that cover a fair bit of different terrain, using the water and elevation changes.

Nate Spear · Post by **Nate Spear** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:35 pm

Mike Murphy wrote:have you done an airil map out of the course on like google maps or something like that? stencil out your proposed area before you stomping through swamps.

I have both stomped around the area pretty extensively and I have done a quick draw up of a google map that I drew some lines on to depict where 18 holes would work pretty well, I'd love some more expert opinions however... Having trouble figuring out how to load that pic onto this forum Mike, so I'll just email it to you, I'd like to hear your ideas.
I'm taking a Geographic Information Systems (GIS) [computer based cartography,] class at Framingham State and by the end of the semester, mid May, I have a final project due, I've chosen to map out this course! I'm gonna get college credit for designing a disc golf course, pretty sweet.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:56 pm

yeah same issues here google map imagine to post for view..can't seem to do it easy

troy just did it in MA course area for holtshire road property but I think he had to upload via Flatrock server

if easy solution is found let me know please

ty

Mike Oatley · Post by **Mike Oatley** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:45 pm

Here's an example of a map I did for the course at UConn via the free online services:
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=049e388410b346ff9bd076a8e17004f4&extent=-72.2516,41.8077,-72.2454,41.8106.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:48 pm

Mike...what is the dealy with that course anyways open to public?

if ya get a sec..check this out viewtopic.php?f=4&p=273073#p273073

ty

Mike Oatley · Post by **Mike Oatley** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:50 pm

Seems to be open to the public. You just need to play when the students aren't out and about. The fairways cross too many walkways and around buildings.

The icons on the map are also clickable.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:52 pm

so the arcGis allows ya to do this huh? cool if so link any map for display?

and how did ya get those arrows to depict direction, and how do ya number? was that an overlay,different software then google earth,or other?

ty

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:54 pm

whoa..clickable to zoom closer to hole and description...I like how is that done all via that arcgis or google earth?

Mike Oatley · Post by **Mike Oatley** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:57 pm

The only information published about it is through Recreation/Outdoor Activities. They have a course map and rent discs and baskets. Policy states a guest of a member can participate in recreational activities, but it does not say who can or can't walk on the campus grounds and throw discs.

Mike Oatley · Post by **Mike Oatley** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:58 pm

the map was all done online through the arcgis web mapping tool. I just created an account with them and started experimenting.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:59 pm

nice installed and love it already...ty

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:08 pm

the software is way sicker then google earth IMO at least for mapping tools and depictions

a lil slower then GE but hey for better tools its a fair trade IMO

when I signed in/reg'ed account it auto had your map saved into my world...lol

that is cool..I wonder if ya can save other peeps maps they share ect ect..that would be cool..great design tool for DG'er and basically overall great stuff

added with the ability to just link so they can change views ect and not just send a person a still photo..and ya can still do that

maybe we need a maps thread...lol

edit what does "snapping mean" IDK..says hit CTRL to enable snapping..just not sure what that is

Chris Piaseczny · Post by **Chris Piaseczny** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:39 pm

Nate Spear wrote:
Mike Murphy wrote:have you done an airil map out of the course on like google maps or something like that? stencil out your proposed area before you stomping through swamps.

I have both stomped around the area pretty extensively and I have done a quick draw up of a google map that I drew some lines on to depict where 18 holes would work pretty well, I'd love some more expert opinions however... Having trouble figuring out how to load that pic onto this forum Mike, so I'll just email it to you, I'd like to hear your ideas.
I'm taking a Geographic Information Systems (GIS) [computer based cartography,] class at Framingham State and by the end of the semester, mid May, I have a final project due, I've chosen to map out this course! I'm gonna get college credit for designing a disc golf course, pretty sweet.

This makes me so happy. I work in natick, and Id love to take a look and help out.
Chris Piaseczny

Eric Kevorkian · Post by **Eric Kevorkian** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:46 am

So I was able to meet up with Nate yesterday to check out the property.

We spent 1-2 hours walking the property while he showed me some of his ideas for holes. We found a couple new ones, and created another 18 hole layout that consisted of some of his original ideas, as well as some new ones I proposed.

I need a map editing tool to draw the layout I had proposed.

It is somewhat tight in spots, but there is a good section in the back that would be great for majority of the holes to play though. It has somewhat of an Amesbury feel to it in the sense that the fairways sort of intersect, but you're never walking through, or playing through, another fairway to get to the basket. Worked in a few tricky/tecnical shots. 2 shots over water, but still cater to a "newbie" player.

Certainly lots of potential! People need to check out the land to see what we're working with and to get the ideas flowing.

Maybe even head out there with a disc or two and play some of the potential holes.

Nate Spear · Post by **Nate Spear** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:40 am

Here's a link to the map I quickly drew up last night, it's very rough, but gives an idea of some of the holes that could be built.

http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewe ... 83,42.3224

Mike Oatley · Post by **Mike Oatley** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:34 pm

If you have GPS on your cell phone, you can also get one of the free GPS apps to walk the course and add check points. Then output to a gpx file that you can upload to the arcgis map. I've started experimenting with this. Seems to work pretty well for mapping out the trails and the holes.

Titan Bariloni · Post by **Titan Bariloni** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:49 pm

what app do you use?

and yes seems more accurate and saves a step of work anyways..I wanna explore this as well

Matt DeAngelis · Post by **Matt DeAngelis** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:02 pm

I use an app called my trax. It uploads to google maps and can be shared easily.
I just went for a lunch time hike in a section of blue hills that doesn't get much traffic.

http://g.co/maps/b95hr

There are a lot of great features in that area which would make for a nice wooded course.

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