NEFA DISCussion

Course Update June 2012:

The short course (maybe to be named Bobcat) now has 10 holes in.
Lisa is really going after the wonderful new growth of poison ivy. Give it a little more sun and watch it grow!

Upcoming July 14 tournament!

I just purchased a new tool called a weed wrench. It is great for pulling out trees up to 2 inches thick. So I hope no more stubbles on the new course.

I've noticed that this year the grass is very lush and seems to be growing very very fast.

Watch out for the chicks on hole 2!!

The tourney went great today- just wanted to post a course observation-

It's pretty universally agreed that the toe lines are a major distraction while driving. There are no other tee boxes (at least not in new England) with a foot fault line since its typically the front of the pad that is the line- and when you reach back for a back-hand during your run up, your head turns back/down for a split second. This is when you catch a glimpse of the toe line and it distracts you. Some groups were agreeing to disregard them- some groups were calling them. They're just too quirky and offer no competitive advantage other than shortening your run-up and adding a distraction (in my opinion of course).

Thank you thank you thank you for putting a nice tee pad on hole 4! Didn't help me much, but at least I can't blame the tee box anymore ...

Jaxon Sheehy wrote:The tourney went great today- just wanted to post a course observation-

It's pretty universally agreed that the toe lines are a major distraction while driving. There are no other tee boxes (at least not in new England) with a foot fault line since its typically the front of the pad that is the line- and when you reach back for a back-hand during your run up, your head turns back/down for a split second. This is when you catch a glimpse of the toe line and it distracts you. Some groups were agreeing to disregard them- some groups were calling them. They're just too quirky and offer no competitive advantage other than shortening your run-up and adding a distraction (in my opinion of course).

I completely disagree. How is a line of Gray Bricks any more distracting than the end of the box itself? Would you have the same complaint if you were teeing off from a road with a painted line? How about if the tees were all natural using just the colored posts?

No matter how it's defined, there is always a clear line that you are required to throw behind. What difference does it make where that line is actually located with respect to it's surrounding environment?

Brad Harris wrote:

Jaxon Sheehy wrote:The tourney went great today- just wanted to post a course observation-

It's pretty universally agreed that the toe lines are a major distraction while driving. There are no other tee boxes (at least not in new England) with a foot fault line since its typically the front of the pad that is the line- and when you reach back for a back-hand during your run up, your head turns back/down for a split second. This is when you catch a glimpse of the toe line and it distracts you. Some groups were agreeing to disregard them- some groups were calling them. They're just too quirky and offer no competitive advantage other than shortening your run-up and adding a distraction (in my opinion of course).

I completely disagree. How is a line of Gray Bricks any more distracting than the end of the box itself? Would you have the same complaint if you were teeing off from a road with a painted line? How about if the tees were all natural using just the colored posts?

No matter how it's defined, there is always a clear line that you are required to throw behind. What difference does it make where that line is actually located with respect to it's surrounding environment?

Second

if done right how are they any more distracting then a mini,wood,or rocks painted?

I wish I had done the ones at Tully with a fault line personally...the wood is slippery and an extra course before the wood woulda looked sweet and been safer more functional..maybe even help protect the wood as less people would finish on the wood causing splintering of wood ect ect

and groups disregarding them should be DQ'ed if it is the course rule...just saying

Brad Harris wrote:

Jaxon Sheehy wrote:The tourney went great today- just wanted to post a course observation-

It's pretty universally agreed that the toe lines are a major distraction while driving. There are no other tee boxes (at least not in new England) with a foot fault line since its typically the front of the pad that is the line- and when you reach back for a back-hand during your run up, your head turns back/down for a split second. This is when you catch a glimpse of the toe line and it distracts you. Some groups were agreeing to disregard them- some groups were calling them. They're just too quirky and offer no competitive advantage other than shortening your run-up and adding a distraction (in my opinion of course).

I completely disagree. How is a line of Gray Bricks any more distracting than the end of the box itself? Would you have the same complaint if you were teeing off from a road with a painted line? How about if the tees were all natural using just the colored posts?

No matter how it's defined, there is always a clear line that you are required to throw behind. What difference does it make where that line is actually located with respect to it's surrounding environment?

how is it more distracting? pretty simple really- the end of a typical teebox isn't something you look for- its an implied end that is seldom stepped over. it's like walking into a door- how often do you do it? never. but if all your doors had a line in front of them that you had to stand behind while opening it, you'd forget. I'm not saying its totally unfair, it's just a quirky thing that doesn't do anything positive for the course. I guess if you like them- that's cool. but I don't get it. you build a beautiful teebox and then chop off the last foot of usable space for the ability to call foot faults?

Jaxon Sheehy wrote: but I don't get it.

It also serves to have a safe follow-through area. If you rationalize to yourself that the toe line is the end of the tee box, and not a line in the middle of the tee box, that may help!

Drew Smith wrote:

Jaxon Sheehy wrote: but I don't get it.

It also serves to have a safe follow-through area. If you rationalize to yourself that the toe line is the end of the tee box, and not a line in the middle of the tee box, that may help!

This is the point I'm sure.

If people actually called the foot faults on them, they wouldn't be so distracting. Saw bunches of of foot faults not called last weekend. Not saying it's right,..just what happend.

Matt Grayum wrote:

Drew Smith wrote:

Jaxon Sheehy wrote: but I don't get it.

It also serves to have a safe follow-through area. If you rationalize to yourself that the toe line is the end of the tee box, and not a line in the middle of the tee box, that may help!

This is the point I'm sure.

Right. It is a liability issue. They have proactively help prevent injuries by providing a safe place to follow thru. I wish more courses offered this safety feature... provided the actual teeing area is ample.

Drew Smith wrote:

Jaxon Sheehy wrote: but I don't get it.

It also serves to have a safe follow-through area. If you rationalize to yourself that the toe line is the end of the tee box, and not a line in the middle of the tee box, that may help!

Good advice ...having said this, I too found the toe lines to be
distracting. My reasoning is that just about every other course
I've played has the "toe line" defined as the edge of the tee
box footprint be it dirt, posts, rocks, fly pads, pavers or concrete
Notwithstanding safety concerns & personal preference, it's
really a matter of adjusting to a defined toe line short of a
tee box footprint.

hows the conditions up there? alot of snow still?