NEFA DISCussion

Jesse James wrote:lost one of my Yak Trax on Saturday. If anyone comes accross it, let me know.

You're probably better off without it, Yak Trax suck IMO.

I wanna try those stablicers or microspikes

Cheef wrote:

Jesse James wrote:lost one of my Yak Trax on Saturday. If anyone comes accross it, let me know.

You're probably better off without it, Yak Trax suck IMO.

I wanna try those stablicers or microspikes

If your using your Yak Trax properly, they are the "best" traction item on the market when you consider value, ease of taking on and off, etc. Ecsp. the ones with the strap that comes over the top of the foot.

Steve-O wrote:

Cheef wrote:

Jesse James wrote:lost one of my Yak Trax on Saturday. If anyone comes accross it, let me know.

You're probably better off without it, Yak Trax suck IMO.

I wanna try those stablicers or microspikes

If your using your Yak Trax properly, they are the "best" traction item on the market when you consider value, ease of taking on and off, etc. Ecsp. the ones with the strap that comes over the top of the foot.

Agreed

YakTraks are grrrreatttt

I think Stabilicers Sports are much better. I used Yax all last year, and threw two pairs away because the rubber broke.

This year I bought the Stabilicer Sports.

The strap on the Stabilicers is not as good as the Yax by a long shot, but for performance when you are going from ice to rocks, to concrete, etc. the Stabilicers Sport stays completely intact, provides great grip, and cost about the same.

DParslow wrote:I think Stabilicers Sports are much better. I used Yax all last year, and threw two pairs away because the rubber broke.

This year I bought the Stabilicer Sports.

The strap on the Stabilicers is not as good as the Yax by a long shot, but for performance when you are going from ice to rocks, to concrete, etc. the Stabilicers Sport stays completely intact, provides great grip, and cost about the same.

I've blown through so many pairs of Yak-traks over the years. They are good for light usage...say walking in a parking lot with pack snow or ice. One winters use with disc golf/hiking and they are toast. They also would pop off very easily...even WITH the strap.

The Stablicers are awesome. I'm on my second year with them and they are holding up very well. Strong rubber, and the metal plates on the bottom are very sturdy. Like you said Dennis, the traction is excellent on several different surfaces. The only downfall with the ones I got...no strap. They would fall off every now and again...still not as much as the Yak Traks WITH the strap.

Solution: remove velcro Yak-trak straps from busted pair, and throw em on the Stablicers! Problem solved.

Stablicers all the way.

Kovo wrote:

DParslow wrote:I think Stabilicers Sports are much better. I used Yax all last year, and threw two pairs away because the rubber broke.

This year I bought the Stabilicer Sports.

The strap on the Stabilicers is not as good as the Yax by a long shot, but for performance when you are going from ice to rocks, to concrete, etc. the Stabilicers Sport stays completely intact, provides great grip, and cost about the same.

I've blown through so many pairs of Yak-traks over the years. They are good for light usage...say walking in a parking lot with pack snow or ice. One winters use with disc golf/hiking and they are toast. They also would pop off very easily...even WITH the strap.

The Stablicers are awesome. I'm on my second year with them and they are holding up very well. Strong rubber, and the metal plates on the bottom are very sturdy. Like you said Dennis, the traction is excellent on several different surfaces. The only downfall with the ones I got...no strap. They would fall off every now and again...still not as much as the Yak Traks WITH the strap.

Solution: remove velcro Yak-trak straps from busted pair, and throw em on the Stablicers! Problem solved.

Stablicers all the way.

Hmm... my Yak Trax have lasted 3 winter seasons now... No problems here!.

I liked what Tserpes was wearing today, I believe they were "Ice Bugs" a shoe with microspikes. That's probably your best bet.

Steve-O wrote:Hmm... my Yak Trax have lasted 3 winter seasons now... No problems here!.

I liked what Tserpes was wearing today, I believe they were "Ice Bugs" a shoe with microspikes. That's probably your best bet.

3 seasons!?

And a "shoe"...i like that.

I would bet that the spikes damage the rubber fly pads to some degree, as would putting screws in your shoes.

Agreed Mike. Just 1 more reason for (if possible - funds, et al) concrete tee pads...or just leave them 'natural'.

I bought a pair of Kahtoola's (spp??); will try them out this weekend...if I can ever get out of work .

Karl

Karl wrote:Agreed Mike. Just 1 more reason for (if possible - funds, et al) concrete tee pads...or just leave them 'natural'.

I bought a pair of Kahtoola's (spp??); will try them out this weekend...if I can ever get out of work .

Karl

you won't slip at all in those Karl. Careful looking for discs in the snow. I put a nice hole in Bunce's roc last week with them.

mike d wrote:I would bet that the spikes damage the rubber fly pads to some degree, as would putting screws in your shoes.

Yeah, I wouldnt use any of the above on flypads. Typically the grip is fine.

And yes Eric, I have gotten 3 seasons out of my current pair. I must say I don't use them much on ice, I go to other means of grip.

If you look up "Ice Bugs" they seem to be made by Garmont.. some versions even have "retractable" spikes, as you put weight down on the sole of your foot the spikes come out. Some have spikes that are just always present.

Steve-O wrote:

mike d wrote:I would bet that the spikes damage the rubber fly pads to some degree, as would putting screws in your shoes.

Yeah, I wouldnt use any of the above on flypads. Typically the grip is fine.

And yes Eric, I have gotten 3 seasons out of my current pair. I must say I don't use them much on ice, I go to other means of grip.

If you look up "Ice Bugs" they seem to be made by Garmont.. some versions even have "retractable" spikes, as you put weight down on the sole of your foot the spikes come out. Some have spikes that are just always present.

I was thinking of ways to do something like that! A pressure sensitive shoe with just that...retractable spikes. Very cool.

Be like meow and roll with retractable claws. Pretty cool idea but no better on the tee pads.

the new stuff they come out with every year is amazing.

retractable spikes is a great idea. used them on ice and what not, but not on the flypads.

soon they'll have heated boots that melt the ice as you stand on it!

The Ice Bug shoes actually work really well on natural surface pads that are jammed up with snow. On the conrete pads they almost grab a little to much. On hard surfaces the spikes get pushed back into the sole. The spike themselves are round and flat and are only 1cm in length. I went to EMS last year to get Yak Trax and they were all out. These are really comfy ice fishing and DG winter shoes. I only paid $20 so it didnt hurt the wallet at all compared to the $140 retail price. Yak Trax are better for concrete and fly pad couses as you can take them off on the tee.

Or just don't take them off and throw from behind the pad.

Mullen wrote:Or just don't take them off and throw from behind the pad.

or just wear your regular boots or shoes when the tee pads are clean

Is the pool store ever open ?

venon28 wrote:Is the pool store ever open ?

Ya what gives!!

Still waiting on the pool store to open . Drove there a few times and nothing, it is aways closed!

Not too many people swim during the winter

I will look Fab!. When I go to get my discs from there. I always look to see if there are anyones that belong to paople that I know.

I gave all the lost and found discs back to Karl Molitoris today. He will run the Buffumville lost and found.

Jesse is lying, he is holding on to my Pro D Force, trying to steal my flick skillz.

All,

Yes I now have all the Buff L & F water discs (from the pool store) and will be holding them for the next 3 months or so. By then it'll be April and I'll 1) be diving the ponds again, and 2) will have figured out a "convenient" way of getting back - to the rightful owners - their discs.

I haven't counted them yet, but there are numerous hundreds...too many to keep in my car ALL the time. And I never know exactly WHO I'm going to run into when I go play somewhere...so...it'll be a logistical challenge (for me) to figure out the best way [suggestions are always welcome].

I intend to make a HUGE .xls spreadsheet to "keep track of" all of them - deleting the entry once I get the owner back their disc, etc. I'm hoping that I'll have the list all made up (as Steve's was "out-dated" - due to that last new bunch I found in December, etc.) in a month or so.

In the meantime I'm asking everyone to be patient.

Karl

Karl wrote:All,

Yes I now have all the Buff L & F water discs (from the pool store) and will be holding them for the next 3 months or so. By then it'll be April and I'll 1) be diving the ponds again, and 2) will have figured out a "convenient" way of getting back - to the rightful owners - their discs.

I haven't counted them yet, but there are numerous hundreds...too many to keep in my car ALL the time. And I never know exactly WHO I'm going to run into when I go play somewhere...so...it'll be a logistical challenge (for me) to figure out the best way [suggestions are always welcome].

I intend to make a HUGE .xls spreadsheet to "keep track of" all of them - deleting the entry once I get the owner back their disc, etc. I'm hoping that I'll have the list all made up (as Steve's was "out-dated" - due to that last new bunch I found in December, etc.) in a month or so.

In the meantime I'm asking everyone to be patient.

Karl

Jesse left one of the 4 i lost at Buff , at the pool store so if you have time to look for a disc with my name on the top of the disc is says Fabricio , I don't know what disc Jesse found , I don't know if it was a red starline wraith or a blue sidewinder or a neon green star boss, but it could be anything ... most likely to be a red star wraith by the place he found pin high on hole #16 ... please let me now. Thanks

All,

Just got done with placing ALL the discs in alphabetical order. WOW. There are a LOT of discs (hundreds). Just the A's, B's, and C's add up to 94. Now comes the hard part of logging them into a Excel spreadsheet. Hopefully will be able to post the list within the month.

Any ideas as how to "get in contact" with people whom only put a name but no contact (email address, phone number) information on the disc?


Fabricio,

I've looked in the "F" pile. There's a total of 5 discs whose first character (in the name, word, number, etc.) is an "f". There is no Fabricio disc, sorry. As I mentioned before, I'll be diving again in about 3 months; maybe some of yours will come up then.


Karl

I saw a guy who put small screws in the soles of his boots. Don't know if it ruined the soles or not but a god idea you don't have to worry about them falling off. Maybe get a pair of boots for goodwill and put some hex head screws in em you'd only need like 1/4in or 1/8in long for it to work

Not sure how much experience you have with Microsoft Access but as a storing database it could be invaluable for this service you provide so kindly. Also, did you pick up any Erik Siersdale Epics in your travels?

gippy wrote:I saw a guy who put small screws in the soles of his boots. Don't know if it ruined the soles or not but a god idea you don't have to worry about them falling off. Maybe get a pair of boots for goodwill and put some hex head screws in em you'd only need like 1/4in or 1/8in long for it to work

Yup, and they are as uncomfortable as hell. Don't do it to a goretex shoe, you'll likely bust your seal in the shoes.