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Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 2:52 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
spoke w/ Dave R today
we will be meeting Sat 5/3 10am in parking area off from RT 140...semi across street from Gardner Bike path.I dont have GPS coords yet
this will be intial design work and blah blah
there will be many more meetings this is just a start
feel free to join us..or catch the next time
thanks
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:44 pm
by Trent Solomon
Titan_Bariloni wrote:spoke w/ Dave R today
we will be meeting Sat 5/3 10am in parking area off from RT 140...semi across street from Gardner Bike path.I dont have GPS coords yet
this will be intial design work and blah blah
there will be many more meetings this is just a start
feel free to join us..or catch the next time
thanks
I can probably go up for a little bit before tball starts.
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:02 am
by Paul Schueller
Hey Trent,
Did Bobka get you that Havoc yet? Maybe you could relay the Sorcerer to Dave or Titan for me if you read this in time.
Paul
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:47 am
by Trent Solomon
Paul Schueller wrote:Hey Trent,
Did Bobka get you that Havoc yet? Maybe you could relay the Sorcerer to Dave or Titan for me if you read this in time.
Paul
No such luck my friend
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:15 am
by Jim Bobka
Ok stop making me feel guilty!! Trent, I'll be at Coggs this Monday.
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:38 am
by Rick Hobbs
Nice work getting the ball rolling again. Now that we've got a few more people stepping up for Coggshall, there's a possibility for me to contribute some time to this project. This course when built will fill the RT2 gap between Coogs and Tully nicely.
I'd like to do a walk through in any case but I see I'm already late for today- next time, I hope...
Rick
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:12 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
nice TY for the interest ALL
Myself,Trenton, and Dave R all showed today
Trent and I took a stroll and targeted some holes and just overall walked around identifing some thangs
Dave showed..Trent had to bounce and myself and Dave rewalked the land discovering some new thangs and some better flow..
I have now walked the land 2x before harvest and 3 times post harvest..
It is strange cuz it is like the timber harvest people cut the land for a DG course..werd...
there are so many logging roads,non property boundary stone walls and fresh cuts that it is a tad confusing...
there is a cart road that intersects the property almost in half...
before we were thinking 9&9 but there is tooo much land..lol all awesome DG land...so we now are going with 18 on one side...and in the future years down the line another course will be put in on the other side...Dave is popping hot ready to go on this and Trenton has a DG shop right down the road...so the future is bright..and wow another mecca just sprouts up with time,labor and funds...I just love it really
so I/we am not fighting the land in the sense of going chainsaw blazing crazy gung ho...we are going to work with the infinite seams and coolness the timber harvest left...heck there is enough to clean up for a pack of work a day workers for a year
the course will be thin wooded with some diverse terrain
all that said..logistics dictate everything..regardless of the land..you can have an awesome hole but if it doesn't connect well to others then well it sux...
we have determined where holes 1 & 18 almost have to go and have early thoughts on the actual holes...
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,18 have been semi identified
we now have to work semi backwards from 18 to connect back to 13...we have room to play on 13..and cool land between 13-18 so 14,15,16,17 will be fine and have a birdy fest type feel to end on a longer hole 18..so the home stretch will demand scoring to perform with the field/etc etc and lets face it some birdy holes can be fun as heck
back on 13 will be a massive converging spot in years to come for the 2 courses and will be this awesome DG gathering spot when out playing..it is also a spot that can be changed/tweaked to fit the futures needs...so kinda critical actually
I am on getting flags,marking tape...Dave is on finding/learning a mapping APP to overlay coordinates onto map...
we will mark/map what we have,revisit 14-17 and identify actually what we wanna do...then overlay and look at our map relative to the land boundaries...se where we have some big gaps...revisit and see if we could/should adjust/tweak....
once that is all done..we will open to all to come out walk the design..add input..we will take that input and discuss if it applies to reality...
then Dave/I will take the proposed layout to City...and set for walkthrough for final green lights to proceed with work...
serious when I say the land is perfect for DG after that timber harvest...amazing really
then it is onto what we can do with debris...pile/chip/burn....once determined will decide on how we should proceed with the next step
so after that is finalized...we will flag the outer edges with marking tape,mark off where piles need to go...and then it is basically just go frigging nuts on cleaning the forest debris to pile areas...
I suspect tees will go in before baskets on this project...as fundraising for baskets vs donated tee material will make that go along quicker..I kinda like that though..then the baskets are last instead of ok got baskets now onto tee..grrrr more work..lol
fund rasing plan will be formulated soon...IMO approahing local businesses is the best approach...as we can have signs in their honor put up here...and OBV DG'ers, and hopefully some City funds are alocated but not holding my breath
Trent..we found some cooler routes/options/flow...and tweaked some stuff...as it will be tweaked again prev mentioned I am sure...the entire left side of cart road we are not touching as of now...
we also have great access for vehicles/atvs to get out to virtually everything we need to touch..that will help soooooo much
That all said this needs to be a group effort...I can help with design,PTB meetings,etc etc...but actuall dedicated labor needs to come from within the Gardner area...of course I wont be able to resist a few work days...but I honestly was thrown a curve ball here and to keep the RT2 plan going forward I have to attach more to the western push up coming and finsih RF&G by Fall...so Guy and I can crush Wenell..it is where my/our hearts are..so inner passion from Gardner needs to be present..cuz passion,dedication,hardwork is what this is gonna take!!!!!!
Ok that is enough Blah blah for now....stuff to ponder and things are looking great!!!!
I am so confident that this site will crush it for Gardner citizens,DG in general and be a cornerstone in nefa land that helps connect all the dots north/east/west of the location
Ok Thanks again all for the interest...remember patience,passion and hardwork folks..lets DO THIS
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:13 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
also
paul I have your disc from Trent...cya soon
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:34 pm
by Paul Schueller
When this course is done I think Dave should get a side gig teaching DG at the community college.
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:13 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
the winchendon golf school is right down the street as well..they would be fools not to include DG as well for more potential $$$$...I plan on having that convo eventually..as I am often in winch of late coaching/playing(poker)during the week
side note the public BG course is close as well..hospital wellness/exercise programs, boyscouts camp collier,mylec hockey center,bogey free DG,bike paths,no foot traffic=riftraft and of course as you mentioned The MNT...
so this will fit so nice..almost erie how perfect this piece of land really is...
attach an awesome bussiness like the ALE house and wowzer....
seriously Gardner just BLEW off the planet...you shall all see...one day lol
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 12:24 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
hope to be back out there doing some design work this week..will post date/time when I confirm
all are encouraged and welcomed to come join in on the fun
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:25 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
meeting Dave R Sat I believe
will post time when we confirm
hope to see some of ya out there
don't be skeeeeered come make your mark on the course!!!
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:00 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
thanks to
Dave R
Paul S
Bradley
myself
we mapped out what we discovered already and explored the next waive of design
good to have a better feel for the land
holes 14-17 are not yet determined but we have a sense of where they need to go..
but more exploration of the land is needed after we get things mapped to better determine what parcels of land we may have overlooked
I think South of hole 10/11 needs to be considered for better accessment of the overall land allotted, and maybe think about using a portion of the fielded area for exit rather the end points we have now
we may find something cool down there freeing up more land towards the end of proposed loop as to not feel crammed/tied on creativity
summary of agenda
map what we do have,identify cart road/powerline other easement on map, explore south of holes 10/11,let the dust settle and ponder if we missed anything/don't like something,gather all our overall information for City to approve,mark via tape/flags,determine what resources we will have on City side,round up troops/resopurces on the DG side,formulate work schedule/list of task,begin fundraising efforts
thanks we are progressing nicely
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:18 pm
by Andy Duquette
Titan, let me know when you plan on going out there to walk it. I'd like to take a look. I live just off of 140 in Gardner.
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:25 am
by Titan_Bariloni
next walk through is being ironed out currently
depends when Dave and I can make schedules work
we have 3-5 holes to iron out until we have a design product to present to City
thanks Duke..wondering where you have been
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:36 am
by Titan_Bariloni
Sunday 1pm 6/1
Dave R and I will meeting to explore some property we wish to incorporate
We need to find 2-3 solid holes from this land mass and then revisit post hole 14-18
anyone is welcomed and encouraged, meet in logging staging area right off RT140
thanks
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:33 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
Dave and I spent 2-3 hours mapping,and finalizing some design aspects
found 2 new holes that are great, very pumped about them and figured out what we are gonna do with the ending
as of now we are moving to getting the holes all laid out onto the city maps to see what they say and then move on from there
so we have are tentative 18 hole loop completed
gotta go for now will update more soon
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:15 pm
by Trent Solomon
Titan_Bariloni wrote:Dave and I spent 2-3 hours mapping,and finalizing some design aspects
found 2 new holes that are great, very pumped about them and figured out what we are gonna do with the ending
as of now we are moving to getting the holes all laid out onto the city maps to see what they say and then move on from there
so we have are tentative 18 hole loop completed
gotta go for now will update more soon
Wish I could have made 8th today but graduation takes precedence
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:49 am
by Titan_Bariloni
I am pumped we were able to create 18 holes all to the right of the cart road
leaving about 40acres for the future!!!!
ponder that 2 courses in a few years
wowzer
edit.
I must say Dave has some strong passion for this piece of land and for gardner in general...
I also must admit he has an eye for design and we gelled great out there
I am confident he will be a great lead for this project!!!!
more details as they roll in
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:26 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
exchanged information with the city map lady(she is awesome BTW)
all of our way points are within the property and away from any conflicts
once we remap depicting hole shapes,trails with actual tee/pin waypoints then the overall design will be overlayed onto the huge city map and sent out to PTB who need to see engineer,conservation, and community planning for final approval
once that is granted then the entire property will be flagged,marked to begin early work!!!
things are rolling along nicely and I must add this has been such a smooth adventure so far and am confident we have used the land to its full potential creating fun,challenging shots that will give the player an overall great DG adventure
will update as more information comes around
time frame will be about 2 weeks till be are ready to overlay onto city map, and then we are at the mercy of the PTB
thanks and stay tuned lurkers
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:59 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
spoke with Community Devlp Planner via email
updated him on the progress, and gave him some time lines on the next phase
Dave and I are super busy as of now, so the final map won't be submitted until late July
the timber harvest people are on other side of land so work can't start anyways till their extraction due to saefty concerns anyways..much like Brooklyn CT
we will find the time to get the design fully mapped depicting trails,shot shape as we just have way points for baskets/pin as of now
they were cross referenced my city mapper and all approved
after we have the entire picture mapped, it will be overlaid onto a giant city map for further approval processes, after that fundraising and on course flagging will occur
the plan is to mark everything in different color ribbons with a make shift kiosk depicting what the colors mean and what needs to be done example "inside red falgs drag debris to green ribboned off area"
anyways progression has still been occuring
any early help is welcomed
thanks
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:57 pm
by Ashburnham Gil
Hello,
I'm a relative new player, but live about 10 minutes from this new site & am interested in helping out in anyway a new player can. Let me know when you guys start building the course & I'd love to help out.
Gil
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:32 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
thanks for the interest Gil
this is def close to ashburnham
once the dust settles from this mid season event schedule we will be back at it
just keep an eye on this thread or email
rt2dgc@gmail.com or pm me your contact info
tell some friends also
hope to cya out there soon
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:25 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
Dave and I are just trying to get schedules to match for a final mapping of course,trails etc to submit for final approval
hoping soon
stay tuned
keep the interest and energy alive folks
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:16 am
by Titan_Bariloni
dave and i have been busy with babies
anyone who knows how to use gps mapping app lmk
would love to meet up walk layout and get er mapped for next process approval
discuss and thanks
would love to reach the next phase this year
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:54 am
by Paul Schueller
I should be able to help with this. I have a GPS and can try mapping it with Google Earth. Also, My wife had mentioned she might be able to do the mapping for us in GIS.
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:05 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
lmk...and we can target a date/time
gonna get some tips from jay mello as well
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:08 pm
by Paul Schueller
I will try to figure out when I could get out there. Also, if you ever get out there with someone else to get the coordinates, I could handle the mapping of them.
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:19 pm
by Titan_Bariloni
sounds good..
i got all pins/tee coords
need trails,cart road and hole shapes/fairway depictions
Re: Gardner MA 1st proposed location logistics underway
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:08 pm
by Tony Ruschioni
Seriously interested in helping out with this course in any way I can. To have a course 8 minutes up the road from me is an amazing thought and I will be happy to participate in the building of it.
Let me know.